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Old 02-01-2007, 04:08 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Moron.

Do your homework before you continue making a complete ass of yourself.


You obviously have NO IDEA what you're talking about. No idea whatever.

You need to just shut up. You really do. You're being beyond moronic.
You have anything other than insults to hurl, or are you just blowing smoke because you know I'm right? All you need to do was admit it was a shit move and I'm off your back.
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Old 02-01-2007, 04:12 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Dumbass.

Did you hear about what the INS did recently in several meat-packing towns throughout the midWest?

Obviously not.

In one small town in Minnesota, they rounded up over 270 illegal immigrants who were working at the local packing plant - a plant owned by a multi-national corporation. Those illegal workers were making the same wages as other people at the plant.
And you complain that they take jobs, right? Well what would be a more sensible decision, a worker who speaks english and is allowed to live in the United States, or a Mexican whose hiring can get you charged with a crime and can barely converse with you? The deciding factor is salary, because illegals aren't citizens. Thus, they are not entitled to a minimum wage. That is why people complain that they take jobs from Americans, because they are willing to work for less.

Some people will show some benevolence and pay the same wages, but it's not uncommon for a company under investigation to pay the minimum wage or higher so that their hiring practices won't be as obvious.
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Old 02-01-2007, 04:21 PM   #43 (permalink)
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And you complain that they take jobs, right? Well what would be a more sensible decision, a worker who speaks english and is allowed to live in the United States, or a Mexican whose hiring can get you charged with a crime and can barely converse with you? The deciding factor is salary, because illegals aren't citizens. Thus, they are not entitled to a minimum wage. That is why people complain that they take jobs from Americans, because they are willing to work for less.

Some people will show some benevolence and pay the same wages, but it's not uncommon for a company under investigation to pay the minimum wage or higher so that their hiring practices won't be as obvious.
Do you READ before you type this stuff?

I'm not talking about migrant vegetable pickers here. I'm talking about full-time meat-packing plant workers in the Midwest. STARTING PAY - at Swift & Company - is over $10 per hour. Do you know what minimum wage is, or have you never even had a job yet?

Good lord you're dumb. You just DON'T get it, do you?
Old 02-01-2007, 04:28 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Do you READ before you type this stuff?

I'm not talking about migrant vegetable pickers here. I'm talking about full-time meat-packing plant workers in the Midwest. STARTING PAY - at Swift & Company - is over $10 per hour. Do you know what minimum wage is, or have you never even had a job yet?

Good lord you're dumb. You just DON'T get it, do you?
Jesus, you really are incurable.

Minimum wage is starting pay for a job. As I mentioned, if the company has starting pay, that outweighs minimum wage. They can go higher, but employers will want to cover up the fact that their employees are immigrants by paying the same. Still, there are plenty of people paying below the minimum. So many arrive that they're practically a disposable commodity to employers. My town has a stretch of highway upon which you can name a price and a few workers will jump forward. Of course, you might need to know a little Spanish, but they are willing to work below the minimum wage. I've never done it, but it happens.
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:09 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Jesus, you really are incurable.

Minimum wage is starting pay for a job. As I mentioned, if the company has starting pay, that outweighs minimum wage. They can go higher, but employers will want to cover up the fact that their employees are immigrants by paying the same. Still, there are plenty of people paying below the minimum. So many arrive that they're practically a disposable commodity to employers. My town has a stretch of highway upon which you can name a price and a few workers will jump forward. Of course, you might need to know a little Spanish, but they are willing to work below the minimum wage. I've never done it, but it happens.
You just don't read before you write, do you?

I'm talking about $10 per hour at packing plants. You're talking out of your butt and making stuff up. Just shut up if you can't add anything relevant or realistic.
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You just don't read before you write, do you?

I'm talking about $10 per hour at packing plants. You're talking out of your butt and making stuff up. Just shut up if you can't add anything relevant or realistic.
Likewise. Minimum wage in some cases means minimum salaries for companies, whether they be legally mandated or privately set up. I don't know how many times I can stress this before it gets repetitive.
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Likewise. Minimum wage in some cases means minimum salaries for companies, whether they be legally mandated or privately set up. I don't know how many times I can stress this before it gets repetitive.
And this has WHAT to do with companies whose STARTING wage is over $10?


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And this has WHAT to do with companies whose STARTING wage is over $10?


I think your mommy might be calling you for dinner, Timmy.
Let me repeat one more time before I give up.

THEY HIRE AT HIGHER THAN THE MINIMUM TO DECREASE SUSPICION!!!!!!!!
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Let me repeat one more time before I give up.

THEY HIRE AT HIGHER THAN THE MINIMUM TO DECREASE SUSPICION!!!

Yeah, okay.



Newsflash, Dumbass: Employers pay what they have to pay in order to get people to work for them. Packing plants keep increasing starting pay because they can't get enough workers without raising their pay. Period.

You've never had a real job, have you?
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Yeah, okay.



Newsflash, Dumbass: Employers pay what they have to pay in order to get people to work for them. Packing plants keep increasing starting pay because they can't get enough workers without raising their pay. Period.

You've never had a real job, have you?
Let it go dude he/she is not worth it,besides he is just baiting us so he can get us banned..so let just treat him like an illegal liberal and just watch, the train wreck....

see no bad words!!!!!!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL THAT DEFENDS HER..
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