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Old 02-02-2007, 04:11 PM   #61 (permalink)
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All of those little rules I set up apply to illegals. Only the lowest income American workers (those with the least professional skills and the youngest members of the labor force) are payed minimum wage. Lower than the minimum wage for an American worker warrants penalties against the employer, and so for U.S. citizens it's mandatory. It's tough to defend yourself if you charge below the minimum.
...and my contention is that this is only happening with Day Laborers who are illegal immigrants. They are NOT being paid, in this way, by large companies - such as multi-national packing plants. The industry is policed too carefully for that to happen. OSHA, the IRS, the INS and all the Unions keep far too close an eye on your major corporations to allow for that. The AFL/CIO would raise holy hell if they caught wind of illegals, at a packing plant, being underpaid.

Anything to the contrary better be backed up by linked proof.
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Old 02-02-2007, 04:40 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Ironically, my view is somewhat to the right. All the sources are from conservatives.

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006...1406173111.txt
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Why does every person who defends the illegal immigrants in this country bring up jobs Americans won't do? It has nothing to do with jobs they won't do. It has everything to do with working for below minimum wage. Illegals are happy to get any job they can find. And they can't tell an official about being underpaid. Hence, the illegal part.
Yahoo! Answers - Why don't people understand that illegal aliens can work for below minimum wage and sub-standard wage?

One last word, because I'm serously sick and tired of this argument: Desperation=Willingness to do anything for money
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:44 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Ironically, my view is somewhat to the right. All the sources are from conservatives.

North County Times / The Californian - Letters to the Editor - Letters to the Editor - 5/15/2006


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One last word, because I'm serously sick and tired of this argument: Desperation=Willingness to do anything for money
I'm going to tell you something now that you better listen closely to:

YOU NEED BETTER SOURCES.


It isn't that I even particularly disagree with anything written in either of those "articles". But good grief, one is simply a "letter to the editor" and the other is nothing but an ordinary person sharing personal opinions.

You think that counts as credible evidence?
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Duly noted
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I still say the best way to handle this crap ..is to get midevil on these illegals and their supporters, put boots on the borders and use force to stop anyone trying to cross and let mexico handle it own problems...
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I still say the best way to handle this crap ..is to get midevil on these illegals and their supporters, put boots on the borders and use force to stop anyone trying to cross and let mexico handle it own problems...
It doesn't work. Hundreds of thousands stream across each year, and only around 3,000 or so are caught and deported. You can send as many troops as you want, but the area between the U.S. and Mexico is vast, and there are plenty of places to sneak through. The domestic solution (at least for short term problems) is to make hiring illegals a more serious offense. More guards at the border does little
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It doesn't work. Hundreds of thousands stream across each year, and only around 3,000 or so are caught and deported. You can send as many troops as you want, but the area between the U.S. and Mexico is vast, and there are plenty of places to sneak through. The domestic solution (at least for short term problems) is to make hiring illegals a more serious offense. More guards at the border does little
You're throwing pennies at a million dollar debt.

The illegals are still coming - and when they get here they have forged documents & false numbers that fool even the most trained experts. Besides, even the illegal immigrants that don't get work are STILL living better then they are in Mexico. Our welfare system is just THAT lucrative.

Build the stinking fence. 20 feet high and 20 feet deep. Razor wire on top. It's not going to keep them all out, but it'll sure make the price of climibing much higher and more difficult.
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It doesn't work. Hundreds of thousands stream across each year, and only around 3,000 or so are caught and deported. You can send as many troops as you want, but the area between the U.S. and Mexico is vast, and there are plenty of places to sneak through. The domestic solution (at least for short term problems) is to make hiring illegals a more serious offense. More guards at the border does little
It would work if done right.
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We should think real hard about what to do about these invaders(yes skippie the sub-human illegals)

I have heard all kinds of yellow back little girl ideas ,from rebuilding mexico to just handing over this country to the illegals.

Think about this ,does the corn farmer have meetings with the rats to keep them from getting into his silo..NO! will he try to find the rats a better silo to rob from ...NO!

I know , i know the illegals are not rats,,, and if I hurt any rats feeling for comparing them to the illegals well..too bad I don't like rats either.

But we must make the border a death trap for any invader that come here.

I can hear the liberals yelling now,"you can't kill poor illegals that are just coming here to make a better life,""..yea a better life by killing raping, and stealing. and that's not even counting the drug dealers.

so we need to start a body count on the border, because fear is the only thing liberals and illegals understand..
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We should think real hard about what to do about these invaders(yes skippie the sub-human illegals)

I have heard all kinds of yellow back little girl ideas ,from rebuilding mexico to just handing over this country to the illegals.

Think about this ,does the corn farmer have meetings with the rats to keep them from getting into his silo..NO! will he try to find the rats a better silo to rob from ...NO!

I know , i know the illegals are not rats,,, and if I hurt any rats feeling for comparing them to the illegals well..too bad I don't like rats either.

But we must make the border a death trap for any invader that come here.

I can hear the liberals yelling now,"you can't kill poor illegals that are just coming here to make a better life,""..yea a better life by killing raping, and stealing. and that's not even counting the drug dealers.

so we need to start a body count on the border, because fear is the only thing liberals and illegals understand..
How very Machiavellian of you. I'm very sure Pol Pot would be proud of your fierce nationalism and perceived superiority to people of other nationalities.

Once again, I challenge you to find proof that a majority of illegals come to the United States in order to kill, rob, and rape. You can't, because they don't. Just like the nativist hysteria at the turn of the century, a few people come to cause trouble, but they are the bare minority, and screening would solve the problem. Unless they have a gang affiliation, criminal record, or contagious disease, let them in. We can handle it, and you'll just have to suck it up and know that this kind of thing always happens with surges in immigration. Wild accusations and ridiculous assumptions.

If we do not know our past we are doomed to make mistakes in the future.
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