Bill O'Reilly used this story to make a very carefully crafted point. Virginia City is a sanctuary city.


Sanctuary cities have passed laws, statutes, or provisions that restrict their own employees and the police departments from sharing information with the INS. In other words if the police or courts determine that that person is here illegally, they cannot tell the INS. Basically they are ignoring federal law and telling their police departments to not aid in the enforcement of federal law.

Now, in this incident the illegal immigrant who is responsible for the deaths of these two you girls had previously been convicted of a crime, however, because Virginia City is a sanctuary city, he was not reported to the INS.

Now I am quite certain that the Constitution clearly states that the power to establish an Uniform Rule of Naturalization belongs to the Congress. Since this is the case, then the 1996 Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act clearly states

So it would seem that Virginia Beach is quite clearly violating not only federal law, but the Constitution as well. What pissed off Bill O'Reilly is this fact. Here is a city openly flaunting federal law, and as a result two young girls are now dead. It is that simple. Here was an illegal immigrant that has a previous criminal record, who instead of being reported to INS, was allowed to remain in this country illegal, which by the way means against the law, and as result two young citizens have paid with their lives.

Like Bill O'Reilly or not, his point is valid. Because of the assinine policies of the city, the girls are dead. Geraldo Rivera refused to admit this fact, instead he did not want to talk about the sanctuary city facet and tried to keep the debate solely about drunk driving.

There is a simple saying in television news, if it bleeds it leads. Bill O'Reilly seized upon the deaths of these young girls to debate sanctuary cities and illegal immigrants. This is no different than those who favor gun control using the tragedies of Columbine. Nor the anti-war protestors using the death of Pat Tillman.

If you are going to critique Bill O'Reilly than you damn well better critique the others.

dmk

There is no TB vaccine, since TB is caused by a bacteria, and has been prevalent in this country for years. Measles vaccines are given regularly, in fact, are required for children to be able to attend public school. Smallpox is the only disease you mentioned that is not vaccinated against, and there has been 0 incidents of smallpox in this country.

Prevalence and Incidence of Smallpox - WrongDiagnosis.com

1) I think you're being really alarmist here...

2) I think you raise an excellent point... Perhaps we should make an initiative to spread these vaccines to Mexico, and help our neighbors... We should help them irradicate these deiseases in their home too...

Furthermore, TB is treatable.

But even assuming they are brining terrible disease with them, that means we should vaccinate them. We should help those in need.

Why are we so willing to spend huge amounts of money to go half way around the globe, and kill people and devastate their country, but so opposed to spending a small amount of money to help our neighbors?

Very true.

Nothing has addressed the real reason these people come to our country in the first place. It's because of the dire living conditions in their own country (exactly the reason our ancestors came here, BTW).

It seems that deporting, enforcing the laws, etc, is only putting a bandaid on the cut, and isn't curing the underlying problem.

Just like fighting crime, wouldn't it be more cost effective in the long run to for us to get these countries and their people on their feet?

Gotta say, Geraldo was by far the more dignified of the two in this "debate." He absolutely showed O'Reilly for the cheap political opportunist he is.

It would have been funnier if you could see the steam coming from O'Reilly's ears - and you just know that it was there!

Terrific. We can't afford to get our own poor on their feet, and you expect us to get people from foreign countries on their feet. Terrific. How much of your income are you willing to sacrifice for such a global welfare scheme? 50% perhaps?

Is it really ok to just go take someone elses earnings because we are not getting what we want at home? I think not. That's called theft.

It's one thing to propose socialist schemes within our own borders to help our own people....I'd argue with it, of course, as not having worked elsewhere, but YOU expect us to support others with our tax dollars in their countries?

Is there something wrong with the concept of self sufficiency, of people taking responsibility for themselves? I suppose you got all this leftist stuff from your school..... right? You were taught socialism ???

Welcome, Mollybird! Have you read the rest of this thread or the others on illegal immigration? One of our posters actually said we (the U.S.) should copy Europe, that everything is just fine over there. Glad to have someone on here who can actually attest to what is really happening there.

That's the way it is here, too. Legal citizens have to pay for those who don't belong here because they refuse to pay. Why pay? There are no consequences.

Misprision, as noted in the Black's Law Dictionary, includes: "neglect of light account made of a crime, that is, failure in the duty of a citizen to prevent the commission of a crime, or, having knowledge of its commission, to fail to reveal it to the proper authorities.

Title 18 § 4 of the United States Code declares the law in the case of Misprision of Felony:

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined not more than $500 or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.