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Bother not the cat. For they are sneaky and will piss on thy keyboard. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Like a prenuptial agreement, you are pre-empting failure and tempting fate, by giving yourself an "out" clause from the outset. Marriage is like most long-term commitments - if you are determined to be successful, if you can learn to sacrifice and compromise, if you can deal with problems and not surrender to them - then you can have a happy and successful marriage. All too often married couples behave like immature little babies, accustomed to getting their own way, and too selfish to want their spouse to be happy. Did you write that yourself or cut and paste it from somewhere? It sounds like it was written by an 18th century author. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| I agree with T&C. The OP seems to be confused between being IN love with somebody.. and actually loving them. Personally, I think you can have BOTH.... with the right person. And the IN love part will wax, wane, and wax again.. and so on. The real love is always there. At least that's how it is with the happiest couples I know. If at first you don’t succeed – try, try again and then quit. There’s no sense in making a damned fool of yourself. – W.C. Fields | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| More thoughts I've had on this: Again, the OP seems to hinge on the illusion that there's only one kind of "love." There are many kinds. The general love for humanity. The love of parent to child. Love between friends -- to name just a few. Being giddy "in love" really isn't love so much.. but a hormonally-driven mechanism of pair-bonding. Yes, I think that sort of "love" does have its place. But in pondering this, I think the true "love" shared by long-married couples could actually be described as: respect. See, as a man who is currently single and always open to meeting a woman with whom I would consider marriage, I found myself looking back on my past failures in that area and putting one thing at the top of my list for what I'm looking for in a woman. She must have self-respect. See, when we say one really "loves" oneself... I think what we mean is not delusional self-love or infatuation (although there are plenty of people out there who suffer from that).. what we are talking about is that one has true, genuine respect for oneself. As the old saying goes, if your can't love (respect) yourself... then you can't love really love (respect) another person. And having been giddy, sappy "in love" with a couple of women who, ultimately, I just could not respect... I think I finally understand the dynamics of that mistake... which I think is a common one that leads to many marriages failing. Sadly, I think many women struggle with issues of self respect, because society still suffers from underlying sexism and doesn't encourage women to have self-respect. Of course, I want to be "in love" with my mate.. esp. at first. But true, lasting bonds will come only from mutual self-respect and respect for one another. If at first you don’t succeed – try, try again and then quit. There’s no sense in making a damned fool of yourself. – W.C. Fields Last edited by mytmouse57; 09-11-2007 at 01:04 PM. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| There is substantial evidence that suggests that all forms of relationship-type love are really based on chemicals reacting in our brains. So, in a way, relationship-type love is...well...a drug. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| All emotions are based on chemicals in our heads. I don't know why people associate the heart with love. It's all between the ears. Bother not the cat. For they are sneaky and will piss on thy keyboard. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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I wonder by what physiological basis this happens? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Emotions have their purpose. The chemical reactions are just the mechanism by which they occur. Yes, being "in love" is a very emotional state. But is true respect an emotion? If at first you don’t succeed – try, try again and then quit. There’s no sense in making a damned fool of yourself. – W.C. Fields | |||||||||||||||||||||
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“BROKEN HEART” SYNDROME: REAL, POTENTIALLY DEADLY BUT RECOVERY QUICK -- Hopkins scientists discover that emotional shock can trigger sudden, reversible heart failure that is not a classic heart attack. Shocking news, such as learning of the unexpected death of a loved one, has been known to cause catastrophic events, such as a heart attack. Now, researchers at Johns Hopkins have discovered that sudden emotional stress can also result in severe but reversible heart muscle weakness that mimics a classic heart attack. Patients with this condition, called stress cardiomyopathy but known colloquially as “broken heart” syndrome, are often misdiagnosed with a massive heart attack when, indeed, they have suffered from a days-long surge in adrenalin (epinephrine) and other stress hormones that temporarily “stun” the heart. “BROKEN HEART” SYNDROME: REAL, POTENTIALLY DEADLY BUT RECOVERY QUICK Bother not the cat. For they are sneaky and will piss on thy keyboard. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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I just wonder when there would be a prescription drug that counters such a physiological event. It would certainly sell well, I would think. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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