When I married my first wife she thought womens liberation was a new kind of bra. She lived to care for me as I did for her, it was a wonderful life... and then she met some liberated American women and it was as if I were married to a stranger.

A lot of American women make a man want to run off to the Philippines to live... liberated women have no idea what a man is nor will they allow a man to be a man.

Hollywood used to present programming that supported right and wrong and endorsed a strong family unit. Today Hollywood doesn't believe in right or wrong, evil or good and encourages personal morals. Black people that earn money portraying evil low life activities are celebrated... if you are rich, even though you can't complete a sentence then you are celebrated as a role model.

My mother lived a much better life without liberation than women today live with liberation... almost no woman with a family worked outside of the home when I was a child. Women ran the family then and now they run the family idea of the past away. Make life terrible for their husband till he leaves and then rear children like the Barbie dolls they played with as a child. The young male of today often appears metro-sexual totally absent of manhood.

It's funny how some people can call-up the worst aspects of some things as examples of some things, but cringe when the same is done for for things that they support.

Marriage isn't built on divorce, abuse, or betrayal even though a certain number individual humans do do those things.

Just as child rearing isn't born on abuse, meth addicted parents, or incest. Even though a certain percentage of individual humans are guilty of such actions.

And when you attempt to give remedy to those that find themselves in such situations, some individuals will find ways to abuse the remedies.

no - I'm saying that your fourth grade (not funny) word games intruding into a discussion is NOT progress

MY spouse?

I already said that nobody wants somebody who is ungroomed and stinks.

I've been in my relationship far far longer than you or most of your bigots have been. Obviously, somebody wants my spouse very very badly.

Nice dodge by attempting to ignore the information contained in the post you responded to - nice - but no cigar, since it was not only a transparent dodge - but didn't even make sense.

hmmm

what do I think of garysher's participation in this thread, thus far?

Women have always been attracted to men that live on the edge. Women have a weakness for bank robbers and renegades, nothing will wake a woman up like a roofing work team filled with former jail birds. The weakness falls in just behind chocolate... All men on the edge are women magnets, like Air Cavalry helicopter pilots or jet fighter pilots just make them all wet and hot... After retiring from the army I traveled to military bases teaching computers and one of my favorites was Ft. Hood, TX. I would go to the officers club and pick up women that drove over fifty miles from Dallas on Friday/Saturdays, most looking for pilots and almost every one of them were elementary school teachers. Talk a bunch of trash, take them for a ride past the helicopter park pointing out your bird and then off to the motel.

Made me think of a story of how sleazy liberated women are... While at the hotel near Ft. Hood my workmates and I were at the pool getting a little sun, exercise and eye candy... My friends were all counting down time to go to the topless bar to get a lap dance but I pointed out a gorgeous playmate of the month across the pool in a tiny bikini and asked why not go for the prize? I swam over to the barbie doll and she looked better the closer I got, way out of my league but all my friends were taking notes... I introduced myself and pointed out that she looks as though she had made quite an investment in her body and I couldn't understand why there wasn't someone there to "do her back" as I volunteered when she answered she was on a business trip, an advertisement sales exec. While doing her back and legs I noted a gigantic engagement ring but said nothing... I asked if she was hungry and made a date for later... we ate and went back to her room and had great sex. Afterwards we were talking and I asked about the ring and she said Oh, I'm getting married next weekend and I wanted to have one last fling before tying the knot, I smiled and almost threw up in the back of my mouth as I tried to hold back a laugh. I thought to myself what a class act as I told her that her fiancee is a very lucky man... indicating she was really good in bed? The bitch took it as a complement!

Edited to add an interesting link Man: Wife keeping me from my ideal woman - Getting Personal - MSNBC.com

yeah

it's a real drag that "liberated" women no longer have to remain married to a sleaze like you

you obviously have the morals and mores of a rutting pig in shit - and you have the audacity to condemn women who don't want to be married to you?

amazing

really