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| Block Captain ![]() Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western New York Gender: ![]() Posts: 208 Country: ![]()
| More proof that "Drive by media" is biased liberal I've known for some time that the "Drive-By media" is biased. Last week I got even more proof of that. The immigraton ( really an amnisty) bill was defeated in the Senate. Some Democrats voted against the bill. Most Democrats voted for the bill. The "Drive-by Media" reported the vote as a defeat for President Bush. They deliberately ignored the fact that most Democrats voted for the bill. It was just as much a defeat for them as for the President. THAT ALONE IS ENOUGHT FOR ME. "For my own part, I sincerely esteem it a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests". Alexander Hamilton, 1787 (After the Constitutional Convention) "An abortion kills the life of a baby after it has begun. It is dangerous to your life and health". Planned Parenthood, 1963 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| I think it is seen as a "defeat" for Bush because it is HIS "plan", isn't it? And his OWN PARTY was instrumental in the plan's downfall. While I agree that the Democrats do have some "failure" here, I think there is ample reason why it IS a failure on Bush's part. "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Block Captain ![]() Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western New York Gender: ![]() Posts: 208 Country: ![]()
| No! "For my own part, I sincerely esteem it a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests". Alexander Hamilton, 1787 (After the Constitutional Convention) "An abortion kills the life of a baby after it has begun. It is dangerous to your life and health". Planned Parenthood, 1963 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Community Leader ![]() Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Flint, MI Gender: ![]() Posts: 770 Country: ![]()
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So yes it was a defeat for Bush. He had a major hand in the creation, support, and the subsequent revival of the new immigration bill. It was also a big loss for John McCain, whose tireless support for this bill may leave some conservatives feeing alienated; and they may try to distance themselves from him, which would possibly hurt him in the primaries. What does this have to do with the media's supposed liberal bias anyway, I mean Bush isn't exactly a staunch conservative? Don't you think it's more of an Anti-Bush bias if anything? Or maybe they're being more critical of him, simply because he holds the office of commander-in-chief and that he strongly supported a bill that most Americans and most in the media (Including those in Fox News) rejected. The people in the media are people, they are not without their own views, beliefs and biases. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Congressional Representative ![]() Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Gender: ![]() Posts: 2,194 Country: ![]()
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Do you actually think for yourself, or do you just go along with what your pundits tell you? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Gender: ![]() Posts: 3,629 Country: ![]()
| LOL. The dear leader could never have sponsored such a bill. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.) Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,491 Country: ![]()
| If you compare our media with that of our cousins in Europe you will discover ours to be much more conservative. So much for your "liberal media" theory. Want more info? Media Reform Information Center "In 2004, Bagdikian's revised and expanded book, The New Media Monopoly, shows that only 5 huge corporations -- Time Warner, Disney, Murdoch's News Corporation, Bertelsmann of Germany, and Viacom (formerly CBS) -- now control most of the media industry in the U.S. General Electric's NBC is a close sixth." THESE CORPORATIONS ARE ANYTHING BUT LIBERAL. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- "There is no such thing as laziness. Laziness is only lack of incentive." Norman Reider, MD Morality is not contingent on religion to exist. Therefore religion only detracts from the purity of morality. Last edited by hevusa; 07-03-2007 at 01:22 PM. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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"For my own part, I sincerely esteem it a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests". Alexander Hamilton, 1787 (After the Constitutional Convention) "An abortion kills the life of a baby after it has begun. It is dangerous to your life and health". Planned Parenthood, 1963 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Community Leader ![]() Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Flint, MI Gender: ![]() Posts: 770 Country: ![]()
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BTW, They? Who's they? The congressional approval rating isn't that much lower than the president's. Depending on the poll, Congress hovers around the high to mid 20s, whereas the president is around the low 30s, high 20s region. Bush: Job Ratings Congress: Job Ratings Plus, a 51% majority in the Senate isn't anything to brag about. (House Democrats also don't have much to gloat over either.) It's not like they can override a veto, or even get the 60 votes needed to end a debate on a bill. (Which is what ultimately killed the immigration bill.) Now, if you separate the Dems and the G.O.P., the approval rating for Democrats in Congress is actually higher than the rating for Republicans; though to be honest, the ratings for both parties and the president are just pitiful. Congress: Democrats Congress: Republicans | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.) Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,491 Country: ![]()
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The fact still remains that our media is owned by CONSERVATIVE folks. And the media reflects this... not liberal values. If you find the content of our media to be liberal, then you haven't even experienced "liberal" and don't even understand what it means. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- "There is no such thing as laziness. Laziness is only lack of incentive." Norman Reider, MD Morality is not contingent on religion to exist. Therefore religion only detracts from the purity of morality. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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