Defending the Truth
Articles | Interviews | Politicians | Groups | Arcade | Experience | Donate
  Defending the Truth > Other Topics of Discussion > Media and Films

Media and Films Debate anything you have seen on the news, in the media, or in any film you have watched.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-01-2006, 01:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
Super Moderator
Moderator
 
hevusa's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.)
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,019
Country:
Points: 30,040, Level: 100
Points: 30,040, Level: 100 Points: 30,040, Level: 100 Points: 30,040, Level: 100
Level up: 0%, 0 Points needed
Level up: 0% Level up: 0% Level up: 0%
Activity: 5%
Activity: 5% Activity: 5% Activity: 5%
hevusa is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by prescott911
as if fahrenheit 9/11 wasn't propaganda. was michael moore's putting comparison pictures of george bush and monkeys in his film necessary?? did it have anything to do with the plot??

I consider propaganda when you invent facts. Bush and monkey's?? Must have missed that, but another keen observation by Moore if you ask me.

He has been right, all along, about everything. It is only now that most of America has caught up (approval ratings at what, 32% now?)
--- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope ---

There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.
Sponsored Links
Old 05-02-2006, 10:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
Senator
 
Katczinsky's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Columbus, OH
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,758
Country:
Points: 15,236, Level: 79
Points: 15,236, Level: 79 Points: 15,236, Level: 79 Points: 15,236, Level: 79
Level up: 78%, 114 Points needed
Level up: 78% Level up: 78% Level up: 78%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Send a message via AIM to Katczinsky
Katczinsky is offline
Reply With Quote
 
First of all, what does Michael Moore have to do with the credibility of the Flight 93 film? As if he's an automatic supporter of Moore just because he's a liberal. Its quite amusing to see generalities being thrown. "Oh, the people that rated it D's of F's are liberals! Those damn tree-huging terrorist traitors!" Please, it really makes yourself look like a dumbass.

Perhaps they were rating it that way because it was a bad movie? Or how about the thought that they're exploiting a tragedy to make money? Wasn't a whole premises of the anti-Moore movement because he was making money off of what he did?

No one knows for sure what exactly happened on that plane (although we should by now, but of coarse they're not releasing the black boxes), and I don't think we shall ever know for sure. But one thing is for sure, Al-Qaeda or not, I don't want to see the largest attack that happened on our soil be turned into a marketing ploy where reality is turned into an all-inspiring hero story. Most of what is on that movie is speculation. It's based off of true events, its not a show on the history channel.

Anything that strays from realism and warps it into this typical hollywood love or hero story in the interests of making profit isn't exactly a documentary. And the fact that such things aren't taken as mostly fiction in which they are, means its propaganda. Anything that warps people's emotions, by showing grotesque images to relate something bad with something or someone, or anything that over-glorifies something for the benifit of others is called propaganda. This film is propaganda.
"If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche

Economic Left/Right: -9.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72
Old 05-02-2006, 11:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
Moderator
Moderator
 
Nebraskaboy's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,612
Points: 7,425, Level: 57
Points: 7,425, Level: 57 Points: 7,425, Level: 57 Points: 7,425, Level: 57
Level up: 38%, 125 Points needed
Level up: 38% Level up: 38% Level up: 38%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Nebraskaboy is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Perhaps they were rating it that way because it was a bad movie? Or how about the thought that they're exploiting a tragedy to make money? Wasn't a whole premises of the anti-Moore movement because he was making money off of what he did?
Read the reviews, partner. They speak for themself. We have movies about wars, and real life violence situations all the time, why is this the only movie being critcized, and why does it have to be exploitation? This is a story that directly affects all Americans. So for generalizing about me, you can go fuck your self.
Godbless, Tadpole.

“I am a Republican. I\'m loyal to the party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. And I believe that my party, in some ways, has strayed from those principles, particularly on the issue of fiscal discipline.”

-John McCain

"Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution.
You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible."

-Jamie Raskin
Old 05-03-2006, 12:20 AM   #14 (permalink)
Super Moderator
Moderator
 
hevusa's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.)
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,019
Country:
Points: 30,040, Level: 100
Points: 30,040, Level: 100 Points: 30,040, Level: 100 Points: 30,040, Level: 100
Level up: 0%, 0 Points needed
Level up: 0% Level up: 0% Level up: 0%
Activity: 5%
Activity: 5% Activity: 5% Activity: 5%
hevusa is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebraskaboy
Read the reviews, partner. They speak for themself. We have movies about wars, and real life violence situations all the time, why is this the only movie being critcized, and why does it have to be exploitation? This is a story that directly affects all Americans. So for generalizing about me, you can go fuck your self.

I just don't think people are buying it.

Release the audio tapes I say.

And while we are at it release the pentagon videos as well.
--- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope ---

There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.
Old 05-03-2006, 02:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
Website Owner
Administrator
 
RidinHighSpeeds's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Taxachusetts
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,517
Country:
Thanks: 12
Thanked 78 Times in 66 Posts
Send a message via AIM to RidinHighSpeeds
RidinHighSpeeds is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Why did the plane hit land instead of a targeted building?? Seems like the story might be true..
Old 05-03-2006, 04:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
Super Moderator
Moderator
 
hevusa's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.)
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,019
Country:
Points: 30,040, Level: 100
Points: 30,040, Level: 100 Points: 30,040, Level: 100 Points: 30,040, Level: 100
Level up: 0%, 0 Points needed
Level up: 0% Level up: 0% Level up: 0%
Activity: 5%
Activity: 5% Activity: 5% Activity: 5%
hevusa is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ridinhighspeeds
Seems like the story might be true..
If the story is true how about a photo of the plane crash site (debris would be nice as well, not just a hole in the ground)? Bodies?

Or are we supposed to believe that this plane evaporated on contact like the pentagon wreck?
--- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope ---

There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.
Old 05-08-2006, 04:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
Banned
 
Jefferson's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Omaha Beach
Posts: 7,298
Points: 21,921, Level: 92
Points: 21,921, Level: 92 Points: 21,921, Level: 92 Points: 21,921, Level: 92
Level up: 58%, 429 Points needed
Level up: 58% Level up: 58% Level up: 58%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Jefferson is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hevusa
If the story is true how about a photo of the plane crash site (debris would be nice as well, not just a hole in the ground)? Bodies?

Or are we supposed to believe that this plane evaporated on contact like the pentagon wreck?
Where is the debris from the jetliners that hit the WTC towers? Doesn't seem to me that they found much, if any, of that.

Must have been a hoax.
Old 05-08-2006, 07:02 PM   #18 (permalink)
Super Moderator
Moderator
 
hevusa's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.)
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,019
Country:
Points: 30,040, Level: 100
Points: 30,040, Level: 100 Points: 30,040, Level: 100 Points: 30,040, Level: 100
Level up: 0%, 0 Points needed
Level up: 0% Level up: 0% Level up: 0%
Activity: 5%
Activity: 5% Activity: 5% Activity: 5%
hevusa is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jefferson
Where is the debris from the jetliners that hit the WTC towers? Doesn't seem to me that they found much, if any, of that.

Must have been a hoax.

It would have been nice if investigators had a chance to review the wreckage at the WTC before it was hauled off.

Magic planes that just disappear! It is like we are kids again... just use your imagination!
--- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope ---

There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.

Last edited by hevusa; 05-11-2006 at 02:38 AM.
Old 05-10-2006, 11:03 PM   #19 (permalink)
Website Owner
Administrator
 
RidinHighSpeeds's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Taxachusetts
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,517
Country:
Thanks: 12
Thanked 78 Times in 66 Posts
Send a message via AIM to RidinHighSpeeds
RidinHighSpeeds is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Magic planes??
Old 05-10-2006, 11:10 PM   #20 (permalink)
Beer Man
Administrator
 
onthefence's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: stuck in the middle
Posts: 3,433
Country:
Thanks: 103
Thanked 288 Times in 165 Posts
onthefence is offline
Reply With Quote
 
mmmm I've heard of magic buses, not planes

"We could not now take time for further search or consideration, our victuals being much spent, especially our beer." - William Bradford



Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.....

Now offering premium membership for only $25.00!! Click here to get started.!
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:43 AM.


 Top Political Sites
Poltical Topsites