Originally Posted by hkbajwa

Precisely, but the statement doesn't exclude others purveying the same message of god.

Mohammad's message would necessarily accept all of jesus's teachings, so muslims would be going with him (jesus) too.

Fact is dude that Islam accepts all of jesus' teachings. However church dogma and the diefication of the church and priesthood is something the muslims do not agree with. There is no conlfict with jesus. There is conflict with the church. But the church was man made, so it is in no way an attack on jesus or his teachings.

You may claim that the church too is divine. If so, then why does it have atrocities like the spanish inquisition as a part of it's past. Divine influence would never cause such violence. It was man made.

Originally Posted by alias

Muslim violence far outweighs Christian violence in history.

Originally Posted by alias

If you are going to bring up violence perpetuated by Christianity, you are going to lose bigtime dude. Muslim violence far outweighs Christian violence in history.

Originally Posted by alias

So you agree with everything Jesus says in the bible? After all, he is a prophet and prophets cannot lie.

Originally Posted by alias

Jesus said he and his father are one. That makes Jesus God. Do you accept that teaching or do you spin it to mean something entirely different? John 1:1 and John 20:28 are also verses that say he is God. Do you accept those teachings also in Islam?

Originally Posted by alias

If you are going to bring up violence perpetuated by Christianity, you are going to lose bigtime dude. Muslim violence far outweighs Christian violence in history.

Originally Posted by hkbajwa

Not claiming anything. But neither can you say muslim violence outweighs christian. So lets just drop that.

Did jesus write the bible?? So if i say i DON'T believe everything written in the bible, would i be calling jesus a liar? No i wouldn't. Unlike you i do NOT believe that jesus' message was adequately represented in the bible. The bible was not written by him, it has be edited and reprinted and amended god knows how many times. So while i consider jesus 100% accurate, i don't see how that equates to believing everything in the bible.


Metaphors dude.. couldn't jesus have meant god created him just like the rest of us? instead of meaning that he was the direct offspring of god?

In any case even if we don't believe what you believe in terms of Jesus's relation to god, that does not mean that jesus' mesage isn't accepted. Can you see how those are two separate things?

Originally Posted by hkbajwa

Not claiming anything. But neither can you say muslim violence outweighs christian. So lets just drop that.

Did jesus write the bible?? So if i say i DON'T believe everything written in the bible, would i be calling jesus a liar? No i wouldn't. Unlike you i do NOT believe that jesus' message was adequately represented in the bible. The bible was not written by him, it has be edited and reprinted and amended god knows how many times. So while i consider jesus 100% accurate, i don't see how that equates to believing everything in the bible.


Metaphors dude.. couldn't jesus have meant god created him just like the rest of us? instead of meaning that he was the direct offspring of god?

In any case even if we don't believe what you believe in terms of Jesus's relation to god, that does not mean that jesus' mesage isn't accepted. Can you see how those are two separate things?

Originally Posted by alias

Bullshit. Muslim violence far outweighs Christian violence. For the life of me, I can't find anyone killing Muslims for Jesus. Can you find me that story?

The koran has been amended and rewritten many many times, yet you believe it is the true account of Mohammed. How can you consider Jesus 100% accurate when as you say you don't have everything written by him? Do you understand what you are doing. Do you know what circular thinking is?

Originally Posted by Dylan

The Crusades?
Hello? Have you ever taken a history class?

Oh, not to mention killing Jews for Jesus. There's LOADS of that in history. I could talk about that all day.

Originally Posted by alias

In that case, the muslims and Christians are tied. They both killed Jews and they both killed each other and untold civilians during the Crusades. So they cancel each other out. There are just as many if not more atrocities of muslims killing as there are Christians throughout history. Let's keep it to the present because that's all that matters. It's kinda like talking about your past marriage. No one cares.

Originally Posted by Dylan

The Bible was written even before the Crusades. I suppose that doesn't matter either?

I love how the only history you think people care about is the history you like. You said that Muslims historically committed more atrocities than Christians. I said you were wrong and proved you were wrong.