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Old 06-03-2006, 01:04 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Why are muslims saying they will kill those who print cartoons of muhamed? People mock Christians every day and I never hear of a Christian threaten to kill those who mock Jesus or make a cartoon of him. Do you think it is right to kill someone for printing a cartoon?
Christians just bomb abortion clinics and beat gay people to death.
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Old 06-03-2006, 01:20 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Christians just bomb abortion clinics and beat gay people to death.
Now you are comparing 2 or 3 nuts to an entire population. Dishonest.
Old 06-03-2006, 02:48 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Christians just bomb abortion clinics and beat gay people to death.
Yeah, that happened once or twice.

But not once or twice EVERY DAY for YEARS.




See a difference?
Old 06-03-2006, 03:38 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Why are muslims saying they will kill those who print cartoons of muhamed? People mock Christians every day and I never hear of a Christian threaten to kill those who mock Jesus or make a cartoon of him. Do you think it is right to kill someone for printing a cartoon?
Absolutely not. And it is also against Islam to do so. Mohammad suffered much abuse at the hands of the people of mecca and he NEVER took revenge for any of the wrongs commited against him.

By islamic principle muslims are bound to listen and refute. But under no circumstances does that mean killing the cartoonists.

Again, just because we got a bunch of fuckin nuts who insist on behaving like animals, does not mean that they understand and represent Islam. Likewise white supremacists who use quotes from the bible to preach apartheid obviously ALSO are nuts who do not understand and represent christianity.

I don't know if you have noticed it, but alli am asking you to do is just to stop cursing the religion based on the lousy example put by the bearded crazies. They do not understand the message, just like the people responsible for the Spanish Inquisition obviously did not understand christianity.
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Old 06-03-2006, 03:41 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Yeah, that happened once or twice.

But not once or twice EVERY DAY for YEARS.




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Absolutely . However bombing those you consider invaders is NATIONAL violence. Not theological. Important diference there too.

Iraqis and palestinians doing something like that are fighting for their nation. Al-qaeda and those who bomb abortion clinics are fighting for their OPINION.
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Old 06-03-2006, 04:06 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Now you are comparing 2 or 3 nuts to an entire population. Dishonest.
And how is your generalization any different? How many terrorist attacks have their been on American soil, committed by Muslims?

I could count them on one hand.
Old 06-03-2006, 04:08 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Absolutely . However bombing those you consider invaders is NATIONAL violence. Not theological. Important diference there too.

Iraqis and palestinians doing something like that are fighting for their nation. Al-qaeda and those who bomb abortion clinics are fighting for their OPINION.
Blowing up a bus or a cafe is not "fighting for their nation." It's terrorism. However, that doesn't mean all Muslims are crazy and want to blow people up.
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Now you are comparing 2 or 3 nuts to an entire population. Dishonest.
You have continually done the same EXACT thing when talking about Muslims and Islam. In fact, the irony for me right now is just great because I just responded to your "more from the religion of peace" comment in another thread.

alias right now is at the height of hypocrisy.
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Old 06-04-2006, 08:20 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Blowing up a bus or a cafe is not "fighting for their nation." It's terrorism. However, that doesn't mean all Muslims are crazy and want to blow people up.
Why is the bombing of Palestinian houses from helicopter gunships not classified as terrorism? These bombs kill as many innocent women and children if not MORE than the bombs let off in Israeli cafes.

While violence in all forms is abhorrent , i think in order to move toawrds peace, the world needs to stop claiming the moral highground just because they have advanced weaponry that allows them to kill in a more sophisticated way than the palestinians.

Just because the bomb was launched at a distance does not in my eyes mean that innocent women and children killed are just "collateral damage". THat is as much a terrorist attack as a suicide bomber. Innocents die in either case.

The fact is that the only weapons the palestinians have in this armed conflict are their bodies. While there should be definate end to the violence, it is not fair to say that Palestinian violence is worse than israeli violence.

I truly believe that it IS fighting for their nation because the ONLY reason they are pushed to these extremes is the fact that their nation is being suppressed. Just like the Israeli nation is fighting for survival.
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Absolutely not. And it is also against Islam to do so. Mohammad suffered much abuse at the hands of the people of mecca and he NEVER took revenge for any of the wrongs commited against him.

By islamic principle muslims are bound to listen and refute. But under no circumstances does that mean killing the cartoonists.

Again, just because we got a bunch of fuckin nuts who insist on behaving like animals, does not mean that they understand and represent Islam. Likewise white supremacists who use quotes from the bible to preach apartheid obviously ALSO are nuts who do not understand and represent christianity.

I don't know if you have noticed it, but alli am asking you to do is just to stop cursing the religion based on the lousy example put by the bearded crazies. They do not understand the message, just like the people responsible for the Spanish Inquisition obviously did not understand christianity.

Why would anyone want to join a religion with a bunch of fucking nuts who kill people over a cartoon? I am not cursing your religion, I am questioning your religion. What are you going to do if I don't stop questioning your religion? Are you going to threaten me or what?

Then you condone the Palestinians using bodies of children strapping on bombs to kill other innocent Jewish children. Nice religion.
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