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| How many CEO's of corporations are homos? | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5,836
| It's amazing how often you ignore my questions while asking your own. Avoiding the point, just so you can start all over again. And then when we reach the same point where you have dropped an argument AGAIN, you'll just claim "around and around" even though we aren't going around. You're just repeating yourself until you reach a point where you have no reply. I'll repeat myself, and this time why don't you try addressing the ISSUE so that we don't have this stupid "around and around" comment from you when you CAUSE the problem??? Employment discrimination is not just about "hiring practices". If you don't promote a person just because they are black or Jewish or female or gay, that is ALSO discrimination. And as I requested, with again NO RESPONSE from you, you cannot show me ANY example where an "openly gay" person was up for a CEO position and was turned down. By your logic, that must mean that it never happened, which would destroy any semblance of an argument you had left. But regardless, since you'll ignore all of the above anyways, how are they supposedly significantly different? Quite frankly, when I go into a store to shop, I see the person behind the counter who helps me. Often in a company which forbids discrimination against gays. I have no clue as to who the CEO is. Most people who shop don't know who the CEO is at the store they are shopping at, nor do they know what his attributes are. So in addition to the above, maybe you can explain how it's supposedly "bad for business" to have a gay CEO as well... (Oh gee. More for alias to ignore...) "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Homos are public about their sexuality in education or government because the liberals promote new age progressive ideas. Business does not promote the sexuality of their CEOs because being a homo CEO would be bad for business. That is true. If you say it is false, then show us why with the facts. How many homo CEOs are there? You have stated you do not know of any. Debate over. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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You just can't hack it, so you ignore the fact that I am directly REFUTING your attempted arguments. Quote:
You REFUSE to address my reply arguments, and blindly just repeat what you said. Your statement is false. The reason "gays are public" in those areas have already been stated. They REAL reasons apply to MULTIPLE characteristics, and not just "gays". And your claim of "promoting new age progressive ideas" has also been shown to be contradictory with OTHER statements you have made, but you refuse to admit it. The sheer idea that gays wield this kind of power in education and government reeks of an absurd conspiracy theory. Quote:
How many stores do you go into where you know the characteristics of the CEO? Where you know if it's a man or a woman? Christian or Jew or something else? Black or white? You claim "bad for business", but that's just a stupid claim you keep repeating because that's all you can do. You can't substantiate it. You can't prove it. All you can do is repeat it and ignore my arguments. Quote:
1) He claims what HE SAYS is true, giving NOTHING to substantiate his claims, and demands others show "facts" to disprove something that he offers no facts for. 2) I HAVE SHOWN you facts. I have shown that most companies have non-discrimination policies regarding gays DESPITE the fact that they don't need them. I have shown that companies have a MAIN IMAGE of the people who actually WORK in the store. Nobody typically knows who the CEO is, nor do they really give a damn. You claim "bad for business"??? HOW is it bad for business? "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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You just can't hack it, so you ignore the fact that I am directly REFUTING your attempted arguments. Quote:
You REFUSE to address my reply arguments, and blindly just repeat what you said. Your statement is false. The reason "gays are public" in those areas have already been stated. They REAL reasons apply to MULTIPLE characteristics, and not just "gays". And your claim of "promoting new age progressive ideas" has also been shown to be contradictory with OTHER statements you have made, but you refuse to admit it. The sheer idea that gays wield this kind of power in education and government reeks of an absurd conspiracy theory. Quote:
How many stores do you go into where you know the characteristics of the CEO? Where you know if it's a man or a woman? Christian or Jew or something else? Black or white? You claim "bad for business", but that's just a stupid claim you keep repeating because that's all you can do. You can't substantiate it. You can't prove it. All you can do is repeat it and ignore my arguments. Quote:
1) He claims what HE SAYS is true, giving NOTHING to substantiate his claims, and demands others show "facts" to disprove something that he offers no facts for. 2) I HAVE SHOWN you facts. I have shown that most companies have non-discrimination policies regarding gays DESPITE the fact that they don't need them. I have shown that companies have a MAIN IMAGE of the people who actually WORK in the store. Nobody typically knows who the CEO is, nor do they really give a damn. You claim "bad for business"??? HOW is it bad for business? "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| It's bad for business because a lot of people will not spend their money at a business run by a homo. You acknowledge there is a bias against homos and there is for different reasons. I have a Christian neighbor. Do you think he would go and buy tires from the closest tire dealer if he knows he's a homo or is he going to drive a mile further and buy them from the Christian guy who sells tires? Whadya think? Duh. Do you know they put out phone directories listing all the Christian businesses? How come they don't do that for all the homo owned businesses? | |||||||||||||||||||||
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I'll say it again. PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW who the CEO is in the businesses they frequent. Do YOU KNOW ANYTHING about the CEO of Walgreens? Or Wal-Mart? Or K-Mart? Or JC Penny's? Or Waldenbooks? Or Amazon.com???? NO. You DO NOT. So this whole crap of yours just fails AT THE VERY START. People DO NOT KNOW anything about the businesses where they spend their money. They don't bother to look because the vast majority DO NOT CARE. Your claim is inane and stupid. It just falls apart RIGHT AT THE START because people just DO NOT KNOW, nor do they CARE who the CEO of a company is. Quote:
The VAST MAJORITY of people support laws which PREVENT employment discrimination. Can you give me ANY EXAMPLE of people who refused to buy from a store just because a gay person ran the business??? No. You can't. And you try to weasel out of that by claiming that is because no gay people run businesses. Quote:
At least 75% of this nation is Christian. But even with that, the VAST MAJORITY of people support gay rights on ALL ISSUES with the only exception being gay marriage. You don't get that without a LOT of Christians wanting equality for gays. Quote:
They DO put out SPECIFIC gay and lesbian phonebooks filled with companies who are SPECIFICALLY gay friendly and run by gay people. Companies who don't discriminate against gays, and who are willing to demonstrate that they are gay friendly. Wouldn't THAT be "bad for business" by your estimation? "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Well good for the homos you foolish little boy. You don't know beans about the Christian community and what they do. I do. Most christians will not deal with homos. That's a fact. If you don't believe it, fine. It's still a fact. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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PROVE that "most" Christians will not deal with gays. -------------------------------------------------------- Later Edit: Who the heck am I kidding. Alias will never "prove" his claim, and he'll spend the next five to ten posts whining and complaining about how his claim is "proven" just on his say-so. I'll prove my point, and let him soak in his own juices... 1996-NOV: Greenberg Research Inc. conducted a national survey of 1,007 voters at election time on 1996-NOV-5 to 8. They found that: Among Christians generally, 70% believe that gays and lesbians should be protected from discrimination in the workplace; 23% do not. Among Evangelical Christians, 60% are in favor while 34% do not. EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION AGAINST GAYS & LESBIANS I realize that SOME Christians won't work with gays because of gross prejudice, but it is nowhere near "most". "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher Last edited by foundit66; 12-29-2006 at 12:15 PM. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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