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Old 12-11-2006, 03:19 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Oh hell no. I don't put faith in psychologists at all. Foundit does, as long as they agree with him though it looks like.
A rather pathetic lie from Alias...

I explained why I see Cameron as a liar and a fraud.
His disagreement with me was not the issue.

Alias cannot honestly respond to Cameron's gross deficiencies and obvious lies, so instead ALIAS lies himself...
Rather predictable...


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It's like this you see, foundit and I have this debate about homos going on and he always says the psychs all agree with him.
Another lie.
I HAVE NEVER claimed that "psychs all agree with" me.
I acknowledge that there are some psychiatrists out there who don't. A rather small minority. And they base their opinion in spite of the research, ignoring the fact that they have no research to back up their opinion.
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:43 PM   #32 (permalink)
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A rather pathetic lie from Alias...

I explained why I see Cameron as a liar and a fraud.
His disagreement with me was not the issue.

Alias cannot honestly respond to Cameron's gross deficiencies and obvious lies, so instead ALIAS lies himself...
Rather predictable...



Another lie.
I HAVE NEVER claimed that "psychs all agree with" me.
I acknowledge that there are some psychiatrists out there who don't. A rather small minority. And they base their opinion in spite of the research, ignoring the fact that they have no research to back up their opinion.
They do so have their research to back up their opinion. Homos have a higher rate of drug addiction, suicide, and sexually transmitted diseases than straights. Those are the facts. And your answer to those facts is that the straights are at fault for making the homos have such a stressed out life because of bigotry and prejudice.

Now that's hilarious.
Old 12-11-2006, 03:48 PM   #33 (permalink)
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They do so have their research to back up their opinion. Homos have a higher rate of drug addiction, suicide, and sexually transmitted diseases than straights. Those are the facts.
Actually, the anti-gay side typically gets those "facts" from studies which also demonstrate that the CAUSE of the higher rate of drug addiction and suicide is because of HIGHER STRESS due to experiencing more bigotry than straights do...

THAT is a fact as well.
Can you show me any research which demonstrates that these issues are INHERENT to gays?
No. Of course you can't.
But you won't admit that either...


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And your answer to those facts is that the straights are at fault for making the homos have such a stressed out life because of bigotry and prejudice.
That's rather derogatory to "straights". The vast majority of straights are not prejudiced against gays.
Only a small number, such as yourself, base their opinions on abject prejudice and thorough ignorance.


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Now that's hilarious.
The research backs me.
And your response is to say "hilarious".
Typical of one with so little to substantiate your side of things...
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In my opinion, homos are responsible for the high divorce rates among heteros becuase of the stress and bigoty homos display by not having children. Straights are so stressed out becuase the homos can screw all day every day without birth control and never get pregnant. That causes a lot of undue stress on heteros because we can't be as free as homos. You bigots.
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In my opinion, homos are responsible for the high divorce rates among heteros becuase of the stress and bigoty homos display by not having children. Straights are so stressed out becuase the homos can screw all day every day without birth control and never get pregnant. That causes a lot of undue stress on heteros because we can't be as free as homos. You bigots.
1) You compare RESEARCH done by REAL PSYCHIATRISTS with "your opinion"???

2) You know, a pathetic sarcastic reply like this doesn't diminish me at all...
It only reveals that you've got nothing left...

3) Just out of curiousity, can you admit that what I am talking about IS real.
The prejudice and bigotry towards gays DOES cause stress to gays?
I mean, I can understand that you may disagree with the implications that the stress causes the higher depression rates and the like, but can you admit that the stress from bigotry DOES exist?

Or would that be just too much honesty to expect from you?
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:56 AM   #36 (permalink)
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All I can admit to is your comical reasoning that bigotry by straights leads to stress in homos, thus the high suicide rate, sexually transmitted diseases, drug addiction and alcoholism among homos is the straights fault.

Now that is funny.
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All I can admit to is your comical reasoning that bigotry by straights leads to stress in homos, thus the high suicide rate, sexually transmitted diseases, drug addiction and alcoholism among homos is the straights fault.
Now that is funny.
First, as I have corrected you in the past, it is due to "bigotry". Saying it is just due to "the straights fault" is rather inaccurate. It's like saying "it is the white man's fault that Martin Luther King was killed".

Can you explain why you think the APA's assessment is wrong?
Is it just because you don't like the implications?
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First, as I have corrected you in the past, it is due to "bigotry". Saying it is just due to "the straights fault" is rather inaccurate. It's like saying "it is the white man's fault that Martin Luther King was killed".

Can you explain why you think the APA's assessment is wrong?
Is it just because you don't like the implications?
So you like the psychs who agree with you but not the psychs who do not agree with you. I think we can all understand that. I am the same way. You castigated me for not believing what psychs stated when a psych was saying positive things about homos. So I found one who said negative things and you castigate him. Hell, anyone can do that. All this boils down to is you agree with the psychs who agree with you that same as me. Now who is hypocritical?
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So you like the psychs who agree with you but not the psychs who do not agree with you. I think we can all understand that.
No. You are LYING about my position, again...
I am talking about ONE psychiatrist, Paul Cameron, who I don't like because he is a PROVEN LIAR.
You can't address that reality, so you yourself LIE about my position, and ignore my true position.

Rather pathetic, and I'm sure "all" can see your tactic for what it truly is.


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You castigated me for not believing what psychs stated when a psych was saying positive things about homos. So I found one who said negative things and you castigate him. Hell, anyone can do that.
What a pathetic LIAR you are.
YOU attack the psychiatrists who say things you don't like because you don't like what they say.
I am talking SPECIFICALLY about Paul Cameron being a PROVEN LIAR.
And you can't defend against that factual assessment, so you yourself LIE about the situation.

I have given SPECIFIC problems with Paul Cameron. He lies. Documented lies.
You repeatedly attempt to lie yourself to pretend that my approach is similar to yours, when nothing could be farther from the truth.
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No. You are LYING about my position, again...
I am talking about ONE psychiatrist, Paul Cameron, who I don't like because he is a PROVEN LIAR.
You can't address that reality, so you yourself LIE about my position, and ignore my true position.

Rather pathetic, and I'm sure "all" can see your tactic for what it truly is.



What a pathetic LIAR you are.
YOU attack the psychiatrists who say things you don't like because you don't like what they say.
I am talking SPECIFICALLY about Paul Cameron being a PROVEN LIAR.
And you can't defend against that factual assessment, so you yourself LIE about the situation.

I have given SPECIFIC problems with Paul Cameron. He lies. Documented lies.
You repeatedly attempt to lie yourself to pretend that my approach is similar to yours, when nothing could be farther from the truth.
Okay. The shrinks you endorse are liars also. Everyone is lying. Yours are lying and mine are lying. Fine with me.

I don't think Cameron lied about anything. You may not agree with his views, but to call him a liar for his opinion does not make him a liar.
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