Defending the Truth
Articles | Interviews | Politicians | Groups | Arcade | Experience | Donate
  Defending the Truth > Other Topics of Discussion > Media and Films

Media and Films Debate anything you have seen on the news, in the media, or in any film you have watched.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-29-2006, 02:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
Banned
 
alias's Avatar
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wild Wild West
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,659
Points: 26,006, Level: 96
Points: 26,006, Level: 96 Points: 26,006, Level: 96 Points: 26,006, Level: 96
Level up: 66%, 344 Points needed
Level up: 66% Level up: 66% Level up: 66%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
alias is offline
Reply With Quote
Coulter: N.Y. Times Committed 'Treason'
Coulter: N.Y. Times Committed 'Treason'

Ann Coulter once said that her "only regret with [Oklahoma City bomber] Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building."

Her acid comments about America's most influential newspaper no doubt found new meaning in the wake of the Times' decision to disclose top-secret programs the U.S. government is using to capture terrorists.


"Thanks to The New York Times, the easiest job in the world right now is: 'Head of Counterintelligence -- Al-Qaida.'" Coulter wrote Wednesday in her syndicated column. "You just have to read the New York Times over morning coffee, and you're done by 10 a.m."

Coulter was writing about what she called "the latest of a long list of formerly top-secret government antiterrorism operations that have been revealed by the Times," noting that "last week the paper printed the details of a government program tracking terrorists' financial transactions that has already led to the capture of major terrorists and their handmaidens in the U.S."

To Coulter, a lawyer, that amounted to nothing less than treason, and she wants the newspaper punished for betraying a vital antiterrorism operation meant to prevent future 9/11s.

"Maybe treason ended during the Vietnam War when Jane Fonda sat laughing and clapping on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun used to shoot down American pilots," Ann recalled. "She came home and resumed her work as a big movie star without the slightest fear of facing any sort of legal sanction.

"Fast forward to today, when New York Times publisher 'Pinch' Sulzberger has just been named al-Qaida's 'Employee of the Month' for the 12th straight month.

Observing that prior to the Vietnam War, "this country took treason seriously," she charged that Americans are now being told that newspapers have a right to commit treason because of "freedom of the press."

Liberals, she wrote, invoke 'freedom of the press' like some talismanic formulation that requires us all to fall prostrate in religious ecstasy. On liberals' theory of the First Amendment, the safest place for Osama bin Laden isn't in Afghanistan or Pakistan; it's in the New York Times building."

Freedom of them press, she explained "does not mean the government cannot prosecute reporters and editors for treason -- or for any other crime. The First Amendment does not mean Times editor Bill Keller could kidnap a child and issue his ransom demands from the New York Times editorial page. He could not order a contract killing on the op-ed page. Nor can he take out a contract killing on Americans with a Page One story on a secret government program being used to track terrorists who are trying to kill Americans ...

"The federal statute on treason, 18 USC 2381, provides in relevant part: 'Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States ... adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000.'"

Citing the cases of at Ezra Pound, Mildred Gillars ("Axis Sally") and Iva Toguri D'Aquino ("Tokyo Rose") who were all charged with treason for radio broadcasts intended to demoralize the troops during World War II, Coulter wrote that the first two were were severely punished and Pound committed to a mental hospital.

"There was no evidence that in any of these cases the treasonable broadcasts ever put a single American life in danger. The law on treason doesn't require it," she wrote.

Last edited by alias; 06-29-2006 at 02:51 PM.
Sponsored Links
Old 06-29-2006, 10:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
Congressional Representative
 
aMFliberal's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Needham, MA
Posts: 2,335
Points: 8,487, Level: 62
Points: 8,487, Level: 62 Points: 8,487, Level: 62 Points: 8,487, Level: 62
Level up: 13%, 263 Points needed
Level up: 13% Level up: 13% Level up: 13%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
aMFliberal is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alias
Ann Coulter once said that her "only regret with [Oklahoma City bomber] Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building."
That is one of the worst things I have ever heard. I mean, really...that is just awful. I can't believe you have even an ounce of respect for her.

If I ever did, I just lost it when I read that.
But it don't take much to get me by
So just booze me up and get me high
Ween
Old 07-09-2006, 04:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
Website Owner
Administrator
 
RidinHighSpeeds's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Taxachusetts
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,504
Country:
Thanks: 12
Thanked 70 Times in 62 Posts
Send a message via AIM to RidinHighSpeeds
RidinHighSpeeds is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aMFliberal
That is one of the worst things I have ever heard. I mean, really...that is just awful. I can't believe you have even an ounce of respect for her.

If I ever did, I just lost it when I read that.
Surely she does not mean it..but it is quite extreme.
Old 07-09-2006, 04:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
Banned
 
alias's Avatar
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wild Wild West
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,659
Points: 26,006, Level: 96
Points: 26,006, Level: 96 Points: 26,006, Level: 96 Points: 26,006, Level: 96
Level up: 66%, 344 Points needed
Level up: 66% Level up: 66% Level up: 66%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
alias is offline
Reply With Quote
 
It was sarcasm. Sarcasm is an exaggeration to make a point. I don't think it is as bad as saying the president should be assassinated. I've heard that tossed around in conversations.
Old 07-09-2006, 04:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
Council Member
 
Dylan's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,808
Points: 6,624, Level: 53
Points: 6,624, Level: 53 Points: 6,624, Level: 53 Points: 6,624, Level: 53
Level up: 37%, 126 Points needed
Level up: 37% Level up: 37% Level up: 37%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Dylan is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alias
It was sarcasm. Sarcasm is an exaggeration to make a point. I don't think it is as bad as saying the president should be assassinated. I've heard that tossed around in conversations.
...

I think you mean "hyperbole."

Sarcasm is a cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
My political compass
Economic Left/Right: 5.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41
Old 07-09-2006, 05:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
Banned
 
alias's Avatar
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wild Wild West
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,659
Points: 26,006, Level: 96
Points: 26,006, Level: 96 Points: 26,006, Level: 96 Points: 26,006, Level: 96
Level up: 66%, 344 Points needed
Level up: 66% Level up: 66% Level up: 66%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
alias is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan
...

I think you mean "hyperbole."

Sarcasm is a cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
Nope. I meant sarcasm and it is intended to "cut" to the truth. If you get wounded in the process so be it. When you get cancer cut out it hurts for a while but you feel much better afterwards.
Old 07-12-2006, 04:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
Congressional Representative
 
aMFliberal's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Needham, MA
Posts: 2,335
Points: 8,487, Level: 62
Points: 8,487, Level: 62 Points: 8,487, Level: 62 Points: 8,487, Level: 62
Level up: 13%, 263 Points needed
Level up: 13% Level up: 13% Level up: 13%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
aMFliberal is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ridinhighspeeds
Surely she does not mean it..but it is quite extreme.
If you don't mean it, don't say it.

Sarcasm doesn't work when your talking about thousands of murder victims...Americans no less. And this woman claims to be a patriot...
But it don't take much to get me by
So just booze me up and get me high
Ween
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:11 PM.


 Top Political Sites
Poltical Topsites