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Old 08-28-2006, 07:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Nope, they're the enemy of Israel. And anyway, they're not getting protection, the American citizens that want to broadcast and watch that television have that protection.
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The United States, Canada, Israel and the Netherlands consider Hezbollah a terrorist organization. The United Kingdom and Australia make a distinction between the organization's terroist activities and its social activities and only label the security organization a terrorist organization. The European Union does not list Hezabollah or its constituent groups in its list of terrorist organizations, but does list Hezbollah's senior intelligence officer Imad Mugniyah;[26][27] making a distinction between the organization as a whole, and its senior members, but don't recognize it as a terrorist organization. Russia,[28] the European Union,[29] and several other countries including the China, India, Brazil, South Africa, Mexico, Malaysia, Thailand, and Indonesia, among others, have not characterized Hezbollah as a terrorist organization.
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In the United States it is illegal to give money to a terrorist organization.
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It is unlawful for a person in the United States or subject to the jurisdiction of the United States to knowingly provide "material support or resources" to a designated FTO. (The term "material support or resources" is defined in 18 U.S.C. § 2339A(b) as "currency or monetary instruments or financial securities, financial services, lodging, training, expert advice or assistance, safehouses, false documentation or identification, communications equipment, facilities, weapons, lethal substances, explosives, personnel, transportation, and other physical assets, except medicine or religious materials.)
That is why it is illegal to give Hezbollah money. It should be noted that many of the groups on the list are not necissarily directly opposed to America, like Kahane Chai, the IRA, And Aum Shirinkayo. However, Hezbollah is certainly violently opposed to a close ally, and we should uphold our alliance, and justice, by barring citizens from aiding the enemy financially. It should also be noted that Hezbollah has close ties with a country that is definitely our enemy: Iran.

Americans can watch any TV channel they want, as long as that TV channel isn't owned and operated by terrorists. The difference between Hezbollah and Al-Jazeerah is the difference between The American Nazi Party and Fox News.
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Old 08-28-2006, 09:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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In the United States it is illegal to give money to a terrorist organization.
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That is why it is illegal to give Hezbollah money. It should be noted that many of the groups on the list are not necissarily directly opposed to America, like Kahane Chai, the IRA, And Aum Shirinkayo. However, Hezbollah is certainly violently opposed to a close ally, and we should uphold our alliance, and justice, by barring citizens from aiding the enemy financially. It should also be noted that Hezbollah has close ties with a country that is definitely our enemy: Iran.

Americans can watch any TV channel they want, as long as that TV channel isn't owned and operated by terrorists. The difference between Hezbollah and Al-Jazeerah is the difference between The American Nazi Party and Fox News.
I think CNN might be close to al-jazeerah. I would not be surprised in a merger some day.
Old 08-29-2006, 09:04 AM   #13 (permalink)
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In the United States it is illegal to give money to a terrorist organization.
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That is why it is illegal to give Hezbollah money. It should be noted that many of the groups on the list are not necissarily directly opposed to America, like Kahane Chai, the IRA, And Aum Shirinkayo. However, Hezbollah is certainly violently opposed to a close ally, and we should uphold our alliance, and justice, by barring citizens from aiding the enemy financially. It should also be noted that Hezbollah has close ties with a country that is definitely our enemy: Iran.

Americans can watch any TV channel they want, as long as that TV channel isn't owned and operated by terrorists. The difference between Hezbollah and Al-Jazeerah is the difference between The American Nazi Party and Fox News.
Yeah I know that you can't fund a terrorist organization. But you can still broadcast what ever news you want. It's in the Constitution. It doesn't matter if its Good Morning Neo-Nazis or Al-Qaeda Today. And any law abridging that freedom of the press can simply be overturned. So then the true question that must be answered is: did that individual provide material support to Hezbollah? Or, is trading with Hezbollah the same as "providing material support or resources to a designated FTO"?
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Old 08-29-2006, 09:16 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Hezbo most certainly is the enemy of America. Here is a quote right from the leader's mouth..... Are you gonna "educate" me on this matter also?


``We consider [America] to be an enemy because it wants to humiliate our governments, our regimes, and our peoples," railed Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, at an enormous rally in February 2005. (Video of Nasrallah's speech, which was broadcast on Hezbollah's Al-Manar TV, can be seen at MEMRI TV.) ``It is the greatest plunderer of our treasures, our oil, and our resources. . . . Our motto, which we are not afraid to repeat year after year, is: `Death to America!' "
Its just rhetoric. It really means nothing. Plus he was at a rally. I'm sure he was trying to get support by working up anti-American sentiment. I could just as easily provide you with this quote:

"We did not start a fight with America, and we don't want a war with America. If someone launches an attack, though, we will respond. We will not take rejection or humiliation. We do not want to fight."
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Hezbo is an enemy of the US. They should not get protection by our constitution to publish their agenda in our country in my opinion.

How badly would you freak out if we arrested an american in Pakistan for broadcasting FOX?
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Yeah I know that you can't fund a terrorist organization. But you can still broadcast what ever news you want. It's in the Constitution. It doesn't matter if its Good Morning Neo-Nazis or Al-Qaeda Today. And any law abridging that freedom of the press can simply be overturned. So then the true question that must be answered is: did that individual provide material support to Hezbollah? Or, is trading with Hezbollah the same as "providing material support or resources to a designated FTO"?
Not if you are at war with nazis. "It's in the consitution" means nothing when America is at war. You can't aid the enemy by letting them use America as a propaganda source against America. Hezbo is an enemy of America.
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Its just rhetoric. It really means nothing. Plus he was at a rally. I'm sure he was trying to get support by working up anti-American sentiment. I could just as easily provide you with this quote:

"We did not start a fight with America, and we don't want a war with America. If someone launches an attack, though, we will respond. We will not take rejection or humiliation. We do not want to fight."
-Hassan Nasrallah
Hitler had a lot of rhetoric also. I don't think I'm gonna depend on you to tell me what is "just rhetoric" and what is real. We've been down this road before in the 1930s and you and your ilk do not know history. You don't know your enemy. You don't know their history of saying one thing and doing another. You don't know their history of saying one thing to the people and another thing to a reporter. One day they are stirring up the masses with hatred at America and then the next day he is telling a reporter what he thinks the American citizens want to hear and you fall for it. Dont' think for one minute that what Hezbo, Hamas, Iran, Syria want is to anihilate Israel. That makes them the enemy of America.

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How badly would you freak out if we arrested an american in Pakistan for broadcasting FOX?
Fox news is not an arm of a terrorist organization. Try again.
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I think CNN might be close to al-jazeerah. I would not be surprised in a merger some day.
1. That doesn't make sense.
2. That's relevant how?
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Yeah I know that you can't fund a terrorist organization. But you can still broadcast what ever news you want. It's in the Constitution. It doesn't matter if its Good Morning Neo-Nazis or Al-Qaeda Today. And any law abridging that freedom of the press can simply be overturned. So then the true question that must be answered is: did that individual provide material support to Hezbollah? Or, is trading with Hezbollah the same as "providing material support or resources to a designated FTO"?
Paying for the TV channel is giving material support to Hezbollah.
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