Defending the Truth

I live in Massachusetts...I might just have to do that if I ever see him. haha

Actually, he is probably going to be using more of our tax money to protect him after what he just said..

That window works two ways alias.
That would make you a hypocrite as well, wouldn't it?

The difference being that what I am talking about is unjustified discrimination, prohibited by the constitution.
What you are talking about is justified discrimination with a purpose, PRESCRIBED BY the constitution.


Oh quit with this stupid lie already alias.
How many times do I have to point out this is about governmental property and governmental endorsement.

Do what you want in public.


Wait a tick. What was somebody telling me the other day?
Oh yeah. Cry, cry, cry-baby. Whine, whine, whine...

You amaze me at how often your own words apply to yourself instead.

Show me in the separation clause where you cannot have a religous symbol on government property. You can't. We already have some. You're hypocrites because you will force someone to take down a nativity scene on school property but ignore the ten commandments on the US Supreme Court building. Both are religious displays on government property and then use the excuse of "historicity". Funny. You expect people with a brain to eat that shit? Stupid.

Asked, and repeatedly answered...
Putting a religious symbol on governmental property, for religious purposes and lacking secular reasons, is a an example of "establishment of religion" which is prohibited by first amendment.


"some" that have SECULAR purposes for being there...


Not hypocritical. You are just NOT LISTENING to what the standard ACTUALLY is.
Nativity scene on school property? Clearly a religious purpose lacking secular rationale.
Ten commandments, amongst other cultural law symbology? A SECULAR purpose, and obviously not revolving around a religious theme.

Consistent. Not hypocritical.


Yes. You are...
The "historicity", for OTHER displays, revolves around how long the display was ACTUALLY up. Some buildings have been preserved as national land-marks, and cannot be torn down because of their status as such.
THAT is the issue.

Over and over again, you ignore what is said and keep ranting on the same non-sequiturs / hyperboles / strawman arguments. You don't respond to what people ACTUALLY say most of the time on this issue.

Wrong. The clause states very clearly that CONGRESS shall not establish a religion. If someone puts up a nativity scene on school property, congress it not doing it, an american citizen is exercising their right. Try again.

I see your point, alias. An individual is practicing his/her religion by putting up a nativity scene. The school is not endorsing it per se. However, isn't it more logical to put up a nativity scene on private property or on church property? Also, shouldn't the individual get permission to use the school's property? If the school grants the request, and not those of other individuals requesting putting up their own religious scenes, isn't this endorsement of one religion over another (akin to establishing the religion)?

Which includes anything under Congressional control.
Schools. Public property. Etc...

And it doesn't say "establish a religion".
It talks about "establishment OF religion".

A significant difference.


No. Because it's not the American citizen's property.
It's owned by the government.

By your logic, an American who is a Muslim could place Islam symbols on governmental property...
Would you have an objection?

I would hope they would get the schools permission. I agree that if another person wanted to put up a religious scene for a holiday, then the school would have to be fair in allowing it. Doesn't bother me at all.

But, the separation clause explicitly says CONGRESS shall not make endorse a religion. How in the hell some people see that to mean you can't put up a nativity scene or such on government property is beyond me. I always thought our government is by the people for the people.

Our government is of the people and by the people. Think about that one for a while. No one is endorsing a religion. I don't care if some idiot muslim wants to put up islam symbols. I do care if he takes mine down when he puts his up.

Our government is formed off of the CONSTITUTION, which the people are free to modify based on the RULES and REQUIREMENTS of the constitution.


If the government puts up a manger scene, yes they are.


Well, at least you're consistent.