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Old 10-30-2006, 12:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is America #1?
I am not a huge huge fan of Bill Maher... But he hit the nail right on the head here...

My buddy managed to show me this video...

YouTube - New Rules - America Must Stop Bragging That It Is #1...
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Old 10-30-2006, 01:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Why should we stop bragging because we are #1? Is it so we don't make people in other counties jealous and envious? Too bad. We are #1. That is the cold hard fact.
Old 10-30-2006, 01:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Why should we stop bragging because we are #1? Is it so we don't make people in other counties jealous and envious? Too bad. We are #1. That is the cold hard fact.
LOL!
And there we have it ladies and gentlemen. The PERFECT picture of those who insist that we claim we are #1, while we ignore precisely why we aren't #1...

People on top don't stay on top by ignoring their problems and their issues.
You degrade education and intelligence, and revel in ignorance and prejudice, and still insist that we are #1...

Did you even bother to watch the video?
Do you even know what this thread is about in the first place?
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I do not degrade education and intelligence. As usual, you're superficial comprehension fails to understand. I degrade liberal education and intelligence and you are a perfect example of why.
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I wouldn't degrade any education, and certainly not any intelligence. The fact of the matter is that we are slipping in many ways. We are losing a huge competitive edge in the world in many markets.

Now don't get me wrong, I love my country and I am EXTREMELY proud of it. Hell I am making sacrifices most people could not even imagine for my country. But the fact is that if we just sit around patting ourselves on the back we are going to find ourselves in the company of other has-beens of nations.
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Old 10-30-2006, 03:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I do not degrade education and intelligence. As usual, you're superficial comprehension fails to understand. I degrade liberal education and intelligence and you are a perfect example of why.
So basically you degrade education and intelligence that leads to conclusions that you don't agree with.
You presume your politics to be a superior indicator of "intelligence" than actual facts, regardless of where they may lead.

I can't help but wonder how much of the "no longer #1" issue is made up of precisely the issue you speak of.

Politics should not dictate research or knowledge, and the current president is a perfect example of a demand that politics supercede facts, and not vice versa.
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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LOL!
And there we have it ladies and gentlemen. The PERFECT picture of those who insist that we claim we are #1, while we ignore precisely why we aren't #1...

People on top don't stay on top by ignoring their problems and their issues.
You degrade education and intelligence, and revel in ignorance and prejudice, and still insist that we are #1...

Did you even bother to watch the video?
Do you even know what this thread is about in the first place?
Okay Boy Genius... Who, exactly, IS #1?
Old 10-30-2006, 04:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Okay Boy Genius... Who, exactly, IS #1?
Did you watch the video in the first post in this thread to even know what the issues are?

If I remember correctly (I could be confusing it with a Jon Stewart discussion that was similar), one of them was education which you have criticized on occasion. Possibly not for the same reasons, but I don't think you should have any argument against the areas discussed where we clearly have a need for improvement.
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I saw this episode Saturday night. It was good. He did nail it on the head.
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
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So basically you degrade education and intelligence that leads to conclusions that you don't agree with.
You presume your politics to be a superior indicator of "intelligence" than actual facts, regardless of where they may lead.

I can't help but wonder how much of the "no longer #1" issue is made up of precisely the issue you speak of.

Politics should not dictate research or knowledge, and the current president is a perfect example of a demand that politics supercede facts, and not vice versa.
If politics should not dictate research or knowledge, then put a sock in it. You liberals all over the place trying to get cloning through stem cell research. Let the private sector take care of it like it always does. Donate and stop trying to tax me for your pet projects.
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