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Old 01-10-2007, 10:09 AM   #21 (permalink)
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All one has to do is look at what is going on in the Gaza Strip. Not only are Muslims attacking Isreal they are attacking each other.

Are there more terrorists today, yes, but they are in Iraq and Afghanistan, not here. The nations of the world are fighting them, Somalia, Britain, and even Russia.

If you are against the War, then anything that comes out showing why it is wrong, you support. But the simple fact of the matter remains, what the terrorist want is not what this world needs. Women covering their faces, deferential to men, conversion to one religion. Rule of the many by the enlightened and religious few. At least we see where those who oppose the war really stand. Above everyone else in their limited knowledge, ready to enslave billions.

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Muslims are killing each other in all parts of the world.

It's not enough to kill Jews, Christians and other infidels. They kill fellow Muslims who don't hold to the same party affiliation.


They're murderous savages.
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
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You're forgetting that the little "quote" was given by a man who was nothing short of a blood-thirsty, war-mongering terrorist. Yes, Muhammad himself - personally murdered hundreds, if not thousands, of people.

Besides, I'm not talking theory. I'm talking reality.


So go ahead and try to make it look like christianity has killed more people than Islam - but you're dead wrong. And you're also wrong in that we are now living in the 21st century - not the 17th century.
And God himself, if you believe it, orchestrated three genocides.
-The destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah
-The flooding of the Earth
-The death of every firstborn son of Egypt
I don't believe it, but if you take his prophets' actions into account, your god's law also has to be examined. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:22 PM   #23 (permalink)
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And God himself, if you believe it, orchestrated three genocides.
-The destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah
-The flooding of the Earth
-The death of every firstborn son of Egypt
I don't believe it, but if you take his prophets' actions into account, your god's law also has to be examined. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
MY god?
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MY god?
As I said, I don't believe in it, but if you're one to believe, take His actions into account along with those of His followers.
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As I said, I don't believe in it, but if you're one to believe, take His actions into account along with those of His followers.
Allah's followers?
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They're murderous savages.
Reminds me of what the white settlers said about the Indians...
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Allah's followers?
Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah, Shiva, L. Ron Hubbard, whatever. Violence is endorsed by most religions, but it is up to the individual to determine right from wrong. When the individual is driven to violence by such external forces as bigotry or greed, they can justify ANYTHING they do. Puritans did it on the early American frontier when they quoted scripture as they raped and plundered their way through "heathen" Native Americans, the KKK did it when they attacked blacks, catholics, and jews, and today, albeit in a different form, the muslims are doing it to each other.

You're confusing human nature, which is inherent, with religion, which is artificial.
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Let's not forget all the hatred that still goes on between catholics and protestants in Northern Ireland which, despite having calmed down significantly after the Good Friday Agreement, is still existent. That issue was just like Iraq, a cultural war with religion being a main aspect of the conflict, but neither protestants nor catholics are (usually) violent. They are driven to action by hate. Plain and simple.
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Let's not forget all the hatred that still goes on between catholics and protestants in Northern Ireland which, despite having calmed down significantly after the Good Friday Agreement, is still existent. That issue was just like Iraq, a cultural war with religion being a main aspect of the conflict, but neither protestants nor catholics are (usually) violent. They are driven to action by hate. Plain and simple.
Northern Ireland and Iraq are the same?


Surely you're joking!
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Northern Ireland and Iraq are the same?


Surely you're joking!
Oh, yes, they are different. Hostility in Ireland goes back a few decades. In Iraq it's a few centuries. Hence, it was possible there, but not Iraq. Tensions run too deep to be mended withina few years.
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