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Old 07-28-2005, 09:33 PM   #101 (permalink)
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there were no african americans who werent allowed to vote in any state of this nation. thats just somethin you saw in fahrenheit 9/11 and thought had to be true. michael moore isnt biased he is always right.
So...he created a set that looked exactly like the House, or he filmed it there. Did he also get Al Gore to act in his movie? Was it Farenheit 9/11 starring Al Gore?

No, actually thousands of African Americans stormed the Capitol after the election. This sort of thing happened this year too, except it was Ohio. All of a sudden, shortly before the election, a bunch of voting machines intended for urban and city areas were moved...for no reason. Some of the voting lines were boasting 6 hour waits. Yeah, sounds like fair play to me.
It happens everywhere. There was a scandal here in Philly during the election because they wanted to put police at the polling stations in black neighborhoods... Why would they do that? Would it be to intimidate?

Or the vague searches for criminals in Florida, where even names similar to a convicted criminal had their vote denied.

This is part of what the flag stands for BTW. Unfortunate as it is you don't get to pick and choose.
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Old 07-28-2005, 09:37 PM   #102 (permalink)
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there were no african americans who werent allowed to vote in any state of this nation. thats just somethin you saw in fahrenheit 9/11 and thought had to be true. michael moore isnt biased he is always right.
So...he created a set that looked exactly like the House, or he filmed it there. Did he also get Al Gore to act in his movie? Was it Farenheit 9/11 starring Al Gore?

No, actually thousands of African Americans stormed the Capitol after the election. This sort of thing happened this year too, except it was Ohio. All of a sudden, shortly before the election, a bunch of voting machines intended for urban and city areas were moved...for no reason. Some of the voting lines were boasting 6 hour waits. Yeah, sounds like fair play to me.
It happens everywhere. There was a scandal here in Philly during the election because they wanted to put police at the polling stations in black neighborhoods... Why would they do that? Would it be to intimidate?

Or the vague searches for criminals in Florida, where even names similar to a convicted criminal had their vote denied.

This is part of what the flag stands for BTW. Unfortunate as it is you don't get to pick and choose.
No, it does not. And lets not mix arguments. And you are right, you' can't pick and choose, which means YOU can't add things..
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This might seem odd... but I've never been to a strip club, nor do I want to attend one. But it isn't because I am against them for any moral reasons. To me it seems like paying to be teased. Why the hell would I want to pay money to see pretty naked girls and then not be able to do anything with them! The concept demeans the intelligence of men.

Unless of course there actually is sex in the champagne room. :P
You are paying for a tease, but also a place to hang out with some friends with nude girls all over the place...Not such bad investment. :P
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Old 07-28-2005, 09:43 PM   #104 (permalink)
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This might seem odd... but I've never been to a strip club, nor do I want to attend one. But it isn't because I am against them for any moral reasons. To me it seems like paying to be teased. Why the hell would I want to pay money to see pretty naked girls and then not be able to do anything with them! The concept demeans the intelligence of men.

Unless of course there actually is sex in the champagne room. :P
You are paying for a tease, but also a place to hang out with some friends with nude girls all over the place...Not such bad investment. :P
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I don't know why they can't accept the fact that he won unfairly. Hell, so did Kennedy! FDR was the same ruthless New Yorker that Gulianni is. It's all the same. I mean, what about the Election of 1824? Andrew Jackson and John Quincy Adams receive the most electoral votes respectively, but no candidate wins a majority. The vote goes to Congress...Henry Clay uses his pull as Speaker of the House to help Adams win the election. Clay becomes the Secretary of State under Adams...the "corrupt bargain" to anyone who remembers taking U.S. History. Come on, smelly elections are part of our history. Conservatives should just get over it and admit Bush won unfairly.
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I don't know why they can't accept the fact that he won unfairly. Hell, so did Kennedy! FDR was the same ruthless New Yorker that Gulianni is. It's all the same. I mean, what about the Election of 1824? Andrew Jackson and John Quincy Adams receive the most electoral votes respectively, but no candidate wins a majority. The vote goes to Congress...Henry Clay uses his pull as Speaker of the House to help Adams win the election. Clay becomes the Secretary of State under Adams...the "corrupt bargain" to anyone who remembers taking U.S. History. Come on, smelly elections are part of our history. Conservatives should just get over it and admit Bush won unfairly.
I agree...

Boy I remember that election of 1824... I was pissed. Adams totally used Fox to put a spin on the facts...
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I know...how ya gonna blame Clay though? The guy ran and lost more times than anyone else. Not to mention he's behind almost every great political compromise in our history. Can't blame the guy for taking the Secretary of State bribe...
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No, it does not. And lets not mix arguments. And you are right, you' can't pick and choose, which means YOU can't add things..
So you get to decide what attributes are associated? I'm not adding anything, they are already there! In our country! Which is what our flag represents (our country)!
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No, it does not. And lets not mix arguments. And you are right, you' can't pick and choose, which means YOU can't add things..
So you get to decide what attributes are associated? I'm not adding anything, they are already there! In our country! Which is what our flag represents (our country)!
No, it represents the ideals on which the country was founded...
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there were no african americans who werent allowed to vote in any state of this nation. thats just somethin you saw in fahrenheit 9/11 and thought had to be true. michael moore isnt biased he is always right.
So...he created a set that looked exactly like the House, or he filmed it there. Did he also get Al Gore to act in his movie? Was it Farenheit 9/11 starring Al Gore?

No, actually thousands of African Americans stormed the Capitol after the election. This sort of thing happened this year too, except it was Ohio. All of a sudden, shortly before the election, a bunch of voting machines intended for urban and city areas were moved...for no reason. Some of the voting lines were boasting 6 hour waits. Yeah, sounds like fair play to me.
Theirs always going to be scandals during elections created by both sides. Why is it we here only about the scandals produced by the Republicans this year? Democrats were also involved in many scandals during the elections. I bet if Kerry won, the Republicans would whine about how the Democrats slashed their tires or did other things to play with the election results. It all depends on who wins. Get over it...

On the news, they interviewed a couple of people in those long lines and they complained about issues with the voting machines which caused longer waits. They claimed it's probably something caused by the Republicans trying to encourage them to leave instead of waiting forever to vote. I heard Moore showed video footage of these long lines in his film...but I don't know because I didn't watch it. Arent these polls in communities consisting of mostly Democrats, actually run by Democrats??

My main point is it all depends on who wins. It's common sense, the other side will complain.
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