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Old 08-16-2005, 05:26 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Re: I suppose the difference is in what you are expecting
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which is not to see a tit. I didn't care that I saw one, nor did most people I know. The "sweeping legislation" is bull and was blown up because of this. Personally, I'm happy Howard is going to Satellite. Public broadcasting is still paid for by the people who hate profanity, so they do have a say. I think the censorship is over-blown but there's not much you can do. I have cable and the FCC doesn't regualte that. I don't care if ABC, CBS, and NBC are not allowed to do things. Big deal.

Howard on Satellite means he can do whatever he wants, which I see as a plus. And stop acting like it's all Christianity's fault. People blame too much on it.

What pissed me off is that the FCC is looking to get legislation to regulate cable and satellite TV/radio as well. Of course, they can't since it's subscription-based. But Congress can change that. That, I see, as utter BS. There is too much regulation, and the Janet Jackson thing was a mistake but I could understand some parents having legitimate concerns about it. Still, 500 000 (the number of complaints the FCC recieved) is not a lot of people. It is, but the population of NYC is 2 million. Eh?

Either way, both sides have valid points, but the left screaming "It's Christianity's fault" is pointless. The Senate approved it 99-1 if I remember. From what I can remember, more than one person on that Senate is a Democrat...So clearly it's not just "the religious right"
The left will always scream that it is Christianity's fault which is complete bullshit. Christianity is the only group trying to keep society sane. If the left had their way, it would be ok for people to flash their private parts on Sesame Street. All I can say is thank god for Christianity.

That stunt they pulled had no room on public TV. It was for public viewing, which was completely un-called for. Oh wait, I forgot it is ok to show nudity because everyone should know about sex and their private parts... The left is crazy.
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Old 08-16-2005, 05:28 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I NEVER said they should be looked down upon, but they sure as hell shouldnt be rewarded for it. I can only imagine you as a father, so Allison did you have sex today? Yes, daddy. Hev- Good job, heres a cookie.

Its not something we should be spreading but they also shouldnt be ridiculed.
I don't think that is at all how Hev would be as a father. He did not say he was for loose, meaningless sex, at all. No one said that. He is just not for bullshitting his own children.

Furthermore, I think his reward would be a doobie, not a cookie... J/K
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Old 08-16-2005, 05:30 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I NEVER said they should be looked down upon, but they sure as hell shouldnt be rewarded for it. I can only imagine you as a father, so Allison did you have sex today? Yes, daddy. Hev- Good job, heres a cookie.

Its not something we should be spreading but they also shouldnt be ridiculed.
It is something we should be spreading. Love and sex is a beautiful thing.
Amen
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Old 08-16-2005, 05:32 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I NEVER said they should be looked down upon, but they sure as hell shouldnt be rewarded for it. I can only imagine you as a father, so Allison did you have sex today? Yes, daddy. Hev- Good job, heres a cookie.

Its not something we should be spreading but they also shouldnt be ridiculed.
It is something we should be spreading. Love and sex is a beautiful thing.
So is Aids, and abortion. Those are wonderful things...
So you simply equate love and sex with aids and abortion?

I love My fiance...

We have sex, a LOT, all out of wedlock... Did I mention we have a lot of sex?

Neither of us are pregnant... And neither of us have Aids...

I guess that blows your theory...
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Old 08-16-2005, 05:35 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I NEVER said they should be looked down upon, but they sure as hell shouldnt be rewarded for it. I can only imagine you as a father, so Allison did you have sex today? Yes, daddy. Hev- Good job, heres a cookie.

Its not something we should be spreading but they also shouldnt be ridiculed.
It is something we should be spreading. Love and sex is a beautiful thing.
So is Aids, and abortion. Those are wonderful things...
Sex Education is also a wonderful thing.

For just one day I would like to experience the world religion free.
Wouldn't we all... It may happen someday... We can only hope...

Maybe on 'Judgement Day' all the god damned religious will leave all the sane people here alone so we can live on in eternal paradise...
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Old 08-16-2005, 05:36 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I NEVER said they should be looked down upon, but they sure as hell shouldnt be rewarded for it. I can only imagine you as a father, so Allison did you have sex today? Yes, daddy. Hev- Good job, heres a cookie.

Its not something we should be spreading but they also shouldnt be ridiculed.
It is something we should be spreading. Love and sex is a beautiful thing.
So is Aids, and abortion. Those are wonderful things...
Sex Education is also a wonderful thing.

For just one day I would like to experience the world religion free.
And you would witness a world of chaos.
That's a flavor of Chaos I can embrace...
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Well....
Yes, JAnet Jackson should have gotten the complaints. People had a rigiht to complain given that the Super Bowl is supposed to be family friendly (even with the beer ads that kick ass). I don't really care that it happened, and don't think nudity should be a big deal. But, America is a conservative country and the People don't want that crap shown, so we'll have to deal with it until enough legislators decide to overturn it. I don't particularly feel hampered by the lack of nudity on TV here, and I don't watch much anyway. So, who cares? We're not changing the FCC laws anyway, and FCC applies to a minority of TV stations. So...again, who cares about JJ?
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Yes, JAnet Jackson should have gotten the complaints. People had a rigiht to complain given that the Super Bowl is supposed to be family friendly (even with the beer ads that kick ass). I don't really care that it happened, and don't think nudity should be a big deal. But, America is a conservative country and the People don't want that crap shown, so we'll have to deal with it until enough legislators decide to overturn it. I don't particularly feel hampered by the lack of nudity on TV here, and I don't watch much anyway. So, who cares? We're not changing the FCC laws anyway, and FCC applies to a minority of TV stations. So...again, who cares about JJ?

Who cares? When we are hypocritical and support violence/murder on television but then have such an exterme reaction to the natural human body we are sending out a terribly mixed and confused message. Christianity is a sick disease if you ask me.
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Yes, JAnet Jackson should have gotten the complaints. People had a rigiht to complain given that the Super Bowl is supposed to be family friendly (even with the beer ads that kick ass). I don't really care that it happened, and don't think nudity should be a big deal. But, America is a conservative country and the People don't want that crap shown, so we'll have to deal with it until enough legislators decide to overturn it. I don't particularly feel hampered by the lack of nudity on TV here, and I don't watch much anyway. So, who cares? We're not changing the FCC laws anyway, and FCC applies to a minority of TV stations. So...again, who cares about JJ?

Who cares? When we are hypocritical and support violence/murder on television but then have such an exterme reaction to the natural human body we are sending out a terribly mixed and confused message. Christianity is a sick disease if you ask me.
I agree. If we stand by and apathetically allow such censorship because it is minor, it will set a precident and lead to further censorship.

As far as Janet Jackson goes... I definately care... I think she's one of the most beautiful women alive... Oh the evil, bad bad things I'd live to do to her...


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Why does it matter, though?
The stuff on TV is much worse than what you would have seen 10 or 20 years ago. Plus, hte only channels the FCC has any control over are broadcast stations like NBC and ABC. Who cares about them to begin with? I like cable very much, thank you. And am quite comfortable knowing the FCC doesn't control that.

So, in that vein, I could give a shit less about what network stations do because they don't have much interesting on anyway. American Idol? Please. Most stations self-censor themselves anyway. They are under no obligation to. I mean are you really that fond of CBS?

The only thing I'm worried about is the bill floating around Congress about extending FCC control to Cable and Satellite. That, I would be highly against. The current amount of censorship over broadcast TV and television isn't anything to complain about, imho, and harsher regulations can always be struck down again. The whole point of the FCC IS to censor, and no one in the government would try to get rid of it because it's political suicide. Plus, the government makes money off licensing those frequencies.
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