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Old 11-21-2006, 07:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Those who can, do.
Those who can't, teach.
Hogwash. How do you explain university hospitals where faculty and staff do both (do AND teach)!
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Old 11-22-2006, 08:54 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Hogwash. How do you explain university hospitals where faculty and staff do both (do AND teach)!
Okay, I take it back.

Those who can, do.
Those who can't, teach - except the 1% of teachers and professors who actually teach AND do. The rest simply have no time to do, because they're too busy pouring over their Teachers Union Benefits books.

Better?
Old 11-22-2006, 04:54 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Conservatives tend to want as much money as they can get their hands on.... teaching positions simply don't pay enough and conservatives go elsewhere.
Why those money grubbing conservatives. If that is true Hevusa, why are there more millionaires in congress than conservatives? Kennedy, Rockefellar, Kerry, Pelosi. I guess if you keep repeating a lie often enough, some people will believe it. Fortunately, those of us with brains can see it. Unfortunately, those like you with an agenda repeat the lie continually until YOU believe it. That should be worth at least 1 infraction point.

Richest people in congress: Well gosh darn granny. In the top 5, I see 4 democrats. Someone is lying to me.

1 Herb Kohl (D-Wis) $219,098,029
2 Jane Harman (D-Calif) $168,651,649
3 John Kerry (D-Mass) $165,741,511
4 Darrell Issa (R-Calif) $135,862,098
5 Jay Rockefeller (D-WVa) $78,150,023

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Old 11-22-2006, 05:30 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Okay, I take it back.

Those who can, do.
Those who can't, teach - except the 1% of teachers and professors who actually teach AND do. The rest simply have no time to do, because they're too busy pouring over their Teachers Union Benefits books.

Better?
A bit.... Where's the source of your 1% statistic?
Old 11-22-2006, 05:34 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Why those money grubbing conservatives. If that is true Hevusa, why are there more millionaires in congress than conservatives? Kennedy, Rockefellar, Kerry, Pelosi. I guess if you keep repeating a lie often enough, some people will believe it. Fortunately, those of us with brains can see it. Unfortunately, those like you with an agenda repeat the lie continually until YOU believe it. That should be worth at least 1 infraction point.

Richest people in congress: Well gosh darn granny. In the top 5, I see 4 democrats. Someone is lying to me.

1 Herb Kohl (D-Wis) $219,098,029
2 Jane Harman (D-Calif) $168,651,649
3 John Kerry (D-Mass) $165,741,511
4 Darrell Issa (R-Calif) $135,862,098
5 Jay Rockefeller (D-WVa) $78,150,023
What's your source for this? Thanks.
Old 11-22-2006, 06:09 PM   #26 (permalink)
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What's your source for this? Thanks.
Whoops. I forgot. Here ya go.

digg - The Richest Members of Congress
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Whoops. I forgot. Here ya go.

digg - The Richest Members of Congress
Thanks!

Hmm... another debate site.

There was a link from it to a more interesting site: Opensecrets.org--Money in politics data. It gave a minimum and maximum net worth on this page: Personal Financial Disclosure Reports: Net Worth. Anybody familiar with this site?
Old 11-22-2006, 08:37 PM   #29 (permalink)
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The media has a profit bias, and therefore has an authority bias. Because they are private corporations, their main goal is to make profit. This is done by getting good ratings. When it comes to issues, they are mostly centrist (with the exception of Fox News) because that is where the majority of the American people are. But when it comes to government, they tend to favor those who are in power. Once they started working for their own pocket books, the media has been more inclined to go along with white house talking points, especially at a time of war. It is at these times that they don't want to be perceived as "unamerican" by questioning authority or else their ratings go down. Just look at what happened to CNN when they tried to air some footage of actual war (*gasp* imagine that...war is bloody).

Therefore the media rolled over in the run-up to the war in Iraq. They rolled over when our bill of rights was neutered with the swift passing of the USA Patriot Act. They (although at this point getting better) rolled over when our right to habeas corpus was shot dead. And they seem to be rolling over again when it comes to Iran.

Their job is to make profits, not to inform the American people. They have framed the public debate in a way so that it is staged, it's constant theater. The media only plays partisan hackery so that their ratings shoot up. There are no more honest debate shows anymore except for our last bastion of hope over at public broadcasting (which seems to be suffering a very slow death).
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Old 11-22-2006, 09:10 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Wow, Katczinsky, you have great aim with that hammer. I believe you hit the nails on their heads. Great post!
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