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Old 07-16-2007, 01:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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No, Billy. Why don't you tell us about it.

Where was this?

What was the fireman's name?

Who were the people shot?

Where did you hear about this?

Newspaper? Which one?

TV? What channel?
This is a real story. It is factual, but I am useing it as a joke because of the propaganda nature of this thread. There are all kinds of crazy people. The propaganda tool used in this thread is to say one crazy shooter is like all War Protesters. Anybody with a brain knows this is not true. No, I do not know if the Fireman is anti-fourth of July. But by responding to my post you have proved my point.
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This is a real story. It is factual, but I am useing it as a joke because of the propaganda nature of this thread. There are all kinds of crazy people. The propaganda tool used in this thread is to say one crazy shooter is like all War Protesters. Anybody with a brain knows this is not true. No, I do not know if the Fireman is anti-fourth of July. But by responding to my post you have proved my point.
Which point have I proven?

Are you saying that by asking for facts that I have proven that there are all kinds of crazy people?

Or the point that the op-ed was propaganda?

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Old 07-16-2007, 02:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Which point have I proven?

Are you saying that by asking for facts that I have proven that there are all kinds of crazy people?

Or the point that the op-ed was propaganda?
The point is: The crazy shooter in the OP/ED and the crazy Fireman who shot people for shooting fireworks proves only one thing. They were both crazy and are not representative of any group except crazy people. I guess a conclusion we can draw from this thread is; be wary of crazy people, they will shoot you.
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The point is: The crazy shooter in the OP/ED and the crazy Fireman who shot people for shooting fireworks proves only one thing. They were both crazy and are not representative of any group except crazy people. I guess a conclusion we can draw from this thread is; be wary of crazy people, they will shoot you.
What's your opinion of the NRA? And I agree with the point of crazy people shooting others. How can they get ahold of a gun in the first place!?
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The point is: The crazy shooter in the OP/ED and the crazy Fireman who shot people for shooting fireworks proves only one thing. They were both crazy and are not representative of any group except crazy people. I guess a conclusion we can draw from this thread is; be wary of crazy people, they will shoot you.

Ah. Well, that point I agree with you on.

However, I fail to see how my previous response "proved" any of that.
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What's your opinion of the NRA? And I agree with the point of crazy people shooting others. How can they get ahold of a gun in the first place!?
There is no way to keep guns away from U.S. Citizens using the Constitution. If you strictly interpret the U.S. Constitution, I should be able to own a Nuclear Weapon. So that means we enter the realm of States Rights. This is a little over my head. In other words how far can the States block Constitutional Rights?
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There is no way to keep guns away from U.S. Citizens using the Constitution. If you strictly interpret the U.S. Constitution, I should be able to own a Nuclear Weapon. So that means we enter the realm of States Rights. This is a little over my head. In other words how far can the States block Constitutional Rights?
As far as I know, the 2nd Amendment has not been applied to the states by any court or established law (whereas others have been interpreted to via the 14th Amendment). So theoretically, until it is contended, any state could abolish gun ownership within the realms of the law.
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It's called Fascist Republican War Propaganda.
No, You don't find this in the Main Stream Media. Did you notice not much is being said about the black guy calling for whites to be killed?

And No, it's not Fascist Republican War Propaganda. The guy was AntiWar Protesting. But It's really more like," Just Bury the story and hope nobody brings it up!"

That's really what it is today! If Nobody hears it, What is there to talk about?
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And No, it's not Fascist Republican War Propaganda. The guy was AntiWar Protesting. But It's really more like," Just Bury the story and hope nobody brings it up!"


Other than the Op-ed piece, I have seen no evidence rhat the killer was an anti-war protestor. I have read every straight news story on this that I could find and none of them said a word about the shooter being an "anti-war protestor."

What they did say is that his suicide notes indicated that he was "mad at the government."

Being anti-war is not the only reason that someone might be angry with the government.

That statement of motive came from the shooter's family. The official position is even less enlightening.

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The circumstances and motive for the shooting were under investigation, Milavsky said yesterday. He confirmed the existence of two suicide notes, but declined to discuss the contents due to the ongoing investigation.

“I can confirm that two notes were left and that they were indicative of an individual suffering from mental-health problems,” he said.
Suicidal gunman ‘angry at the government’ - News - MSNBC.com
Unless you have some un-biased evidence that this was an "anti-war protestor" this is just another story about a crazy person commiting murder. If every such story was given national coverage, there would be no time left for any other news.
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Antiwar passion?Bloggers are convinced, but prosecutors say no.
Here is the latest news on this out of local news. Seems the reactionist bloggers are full of shit.

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Airman's shooting: Antiwar passion?Bloggers are convinced, but prosecutors say no.

By Edward Colimore Inquirer Staff Writer

Burlington County and Willingboro authorities said yesterday they may never reveal the text of the Marren notes, but that its content did not support the picture presented by bloggers.

Investigators point out that the 22-year-old Schrieken did not know the gunman, was not in uniform at the time of the incident, and would not have been an obvious target for someone trying to kill a soldier.

Yesterday, Smith, the spokesman for the Burlington County Prosecutor's Office, described Marren's final words as "rambling. There was no mention of the military, the war in Iraq or the victim being a soldier.

" . . . This has taken on a life of its own."

Airman's shooting: Antiwar passion? | Inquirer | 07/18/2007
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Marren's family say he was not politically active and was not a war protester.

"This had nothing to do with the war," said his stepmother, Vicki Marren, standing near the large American flag that hangs outside their Pennsauken home.

Questions arise on shooting of local airman
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