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| General Ivashov: “International terrorism does not exist” http://www.voltairenet.org/article133909.html "General Leonid Ivashov was the Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces when the September 11, 2001, attacks took place. This military man, who lived the events from the inside, offers an analysis which is very different to that of his American colleagues. As he did during the Axis for Peace 2005 conference, he now explains that international terrorism does not exist and that the September 11 attacks were the result of a set-up. What we are seeing is a manipulation by the big powers; this terrorism would not exist without them. He affirms that, instead of faking a “world war on terror”, the best way to reduce that kind of attacks is through respect for international law and peaceful cooperation among countries and their citizens." (And the General's statement follows after this introduction in the link provided above). Thoughts? This certainly is a step foward in determining who is responsible for the attacks on 9/11. It isn't proof, but its a 'testimony' (for lack of better terms) of an important inside figure. This man was certainly at the table when talking with Putin and the rest of the gang, so whatever you do don't brush this man's comments off just yet. There still is no evidence that proves the al-Qaeda did the attacks (which most Americans don't know), and the verdict is still out. But one things for certain, who ever did it, the government doesn't want us to know. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Here's what I think happened: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hundreds.html Inside job? The Massad are our allies? This fits right in with what the General is saying above. Take the time to read this whole thing. It makes more sense than I feel comfortable with!! Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Re: General Ivashov: “International terrorism does not exist You know what they say: "It is good to have an enemy" In this case I think America's military/government took it one step farther and now say "It is better to create an enemy" The war on terror is genius because it is endless. No one can say it is over and we can be kept in a perpetual state of war, which seems to what Bush and his cronies truly want. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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"If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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As much as I love your spirit Katczinsky....I must make an important critique of your avatar.....Socialist International/Antonio Guiterres goes to Bilderberg meetings with David Rockefeller,Paul Wolfowitz (World Bank/IMF) and the rest of the Globalist Terror network. Here is the link....its in Russian scroll down to the bottom to see the pictures of the Bilderberg conspirators: http://www.noitikiantistasis.com/bilderberg2005.html | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Indeed the idea that the world's rich and powerful get together behind closed doors and the people of the world aren't told of its happenings is quite frightening. This in conjunction with Antony C. Sutton's revieling of American corporations funding both the rise of Hitler and the Soviet Union quite frankly does raise some interesting questions. But until these questions are answered the Bilderberg Group will remain just a conspiracy theory. And actually a conspiracy theory that has little to no merit to it. The theory that the happenings in the world are predetermined behind closed doors at an international meeting of the rich and powerful doesn't really have any evidence to it. It makes much more sense that the Bilderberg meetings are just a meeting of international leaders and powerful people just to speak their minds and talk about global issues without repercusions of the media pouncing on every word they say. With that being said, however, I'm sure that perhaps world leaders talk about their intentions for future actions (for example maybe Paul Wolfowitz talking about a US invasion of Iraq years before it happens), but I highly doubt they all conspire together to make world wars and famine. Whats the point in it? Population control? With that being said I would be glad if António Guterres attended the meetings, so that Socialist ideas can get into the meeting and into the discussion that very right wing people attend. Just because he attends the meetings doesn't mean he helped conspire future world happenings. Its also quite interesting to see that John Edwards attended the meetings. And anyway I'm sure António Guterres attended the meeting because he's the Prime Minister of Portugal. Rather than representing Socialist International whom I believe he is Vice President of. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Have you seen the stuff they planned in our nation's capital?? The southern point is home to Bush currently. ![]() ![]() --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| In 1982, Bruce Allen Murphy, then assistant professor of Political Science at Pennsylvania State University, wrote a book, entitled The Brandeis/Frankfurter Connection, in which he documented his discovery of letters and papers of the late Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, which contained some of the collection of notes and letters of Supreme Court Justice Brandeis. He detailed the extra-judicial activities of Justice Louis D. Brandeis and revealed that while Felix Frankfurter was professor at Harvard, Justice Brandeis would communicate with him about his feelings on a particular social goal, and request that he have some of his most gifted law students produce some papers, essays, and articles for the law reviews, which professed these views. He wrote: "Once these articles were in print, the justice would cite the information and analysis, as well as "the mandate of opinion in the Law Reviews," to lobby various politicians and his own colleagues on the Court. It is interesting that these student-authors would later be placed by Brandeis and Frankfurter in a plethora of New Deal Agencies, where they could help to implement many of the policies that they had earlier been influenced to propose in print." | |||||||||||||||||||||
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