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Old 07-08-2008, 04:32 PM   #51 (permalink)
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about what?
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The shower thing is absurd, we all have the same boy parts so really, it is nothing special.

If you think every gay man is looking at you, guess again.

Grow the fuck up.
I don't think women are separated from men because they've never seen a piece of ass before or because men are bound to rape them if not.
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I don't think women are separated from men because they've never seen a piece of ass before or because men are bound to rape them if not.
So then what is the problem?
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So then what is the problem?
I don't know why the military gives women strictly separate billeting. But they do. We've all seen ass before. And I'm sure they've all seen them too.
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I don't know why the military gives women strictly separate billeting. But they do. We've all seen ass before. And I'm sure they've all seen them too.
The point is, as you stated, it is not about the sexual aspect of it; however, I believe it is about the gender aspect of it and that women have different considerations regarding their physiology than men...and so have an expectation of privacy for that reason.

Regardless, if you don't believe that the separation is sexually based for men and women, then what is your issue around showers with gay men?
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The point is, as you stated, it is not about the sexual aspect of it; however, I believe it is about the gender aspect of it and that women have different considerations regarding their physiology than men...and so have an expectation of privacy for that reason.

Regardless, if you don't believe that the separation is sexually based for men and women, then what is your issue around showers with gay men?
The same as showers with straight women - substituting the appeal of naked women with the revulsion over homosexuality.

Do you deliberately try to appear this gormless??
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The same as showers with straight women - substituting the appeal of naked women with the revulsion over homosexuality.

Do you deliberately try to appear this gormless??
*woosh*

(psssst, that was the sound of something flying completely over your head)
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The point is, as you stated, it is not about the sexual aspect of it; however, I believe it is about the gender aspect of it and that women have different considerations regarding their physiology than men...and so have an expectation of privacy for that reason.
What considerations are there? If they are suspicions that men might look at women because they are attracted to them, what's the difference for gay men in a shower situation. Scientists say that gay men have female-ish brains. Makes sense that since gay men react to gay porn the same way the straight men react to women, there are grounds for the same separation the gender affords.

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Regardless, if you don't believe that the separation is sexually based for men and women, then what is your issue around showers with gay men?
Whatever the reason, it is there. And the same individual mechanism applies between sexual orientations. I want any gay man looking at me as much as I would like the fat ugly WM to look at me. I don't give a damn whether he wants me or not. I 100% don't want him.
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