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Old 08-17-2008, 08:06 PM   #131 (permalink)
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I thought that the article was quite clear and easy to understand. Maybe you should read it again.
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:40 AM   #132 (permalink)
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And I do agree that Russia is way out of order in going into a sovereign nation with a democratically elected government, but what can we really do about it? Not much, and nothing militarily. But our relations are ging to be severely effected and may not change for many years to come.
The EU should be doing something about it.

The EU is afraid of having their Russian oil and gas cut off.

The EU needs to move to alternative fuels.
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The EU should be doing something about it.

The EU is afraid of having their Russian oil and gas cut off.

The EU needs to move to alternative fuels.

You mean the same way that the US is so tough on Saudi Arabia???

At least Gordon Brown doesn't hold hands with Putin - not yet!
Old 08-21-2008, 06:06 AM   #134 (permalink)
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You mean the same way that the US is so tough on Saudi Arabia???

At least Gordon Brown doesn't hold hands with Putin - not yet!

When SA starts invading other countries, then you will have a point.
Old 08-21-2008, 10:22 AM   #135 (permalink)
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Whoops, civilian eye witnesses don't conform to our simplistic one-sided anti-Russian view? That can't be right, cut to a commercial break!

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Old 08-21-2008, 10:23 AM   #136 (permalink)
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When SA starts invading other countries, then you will have a point.
Oh, so you mean like how Georgia invaded South Ossetia?
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Oh, so you mean like how Georgia invaded South Ossetia?
Just keep the damn fighting from spilling over into Florida I say.
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We have no clout anymore and no moral high ground to look down on Russia from. That is the main problem here. They seem to have planned this because their timing couln't be better for them. What are we going to do about it? Nothing much, which is just going to give Russia more momentum and less concern.
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You mean the same way that the US is so tough on Saudi Arabia???

At least Gordon Brown doesn't hold hands with Putin - not yet!
Putin was a good boy compared to Medvedev.
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We have no clout anymore and no moral high ground to look down on Russia from. That is the main problem here. They seem to have planned this because their timing couln't be better for them. What are we going to do about it? Nothing much, which is just going to give Russia more momentum and less concern.
How does the US not have clout nor moral high ground?

The EU/eastern Europe are being threatened.

Europeans need to clean up the trash in their own neighborhood and quit being held hostage by Russian oil and gas.

Europeans need alternative fuels and to tear down all of those ancient energy wasting buildings to get off of Russian energy.

Europe has 6 times more people than Russia, yet Europeans are being held captive?
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