Originally Posted by alias

Whatever. He was comparing our soldiers to terrorists and I have family who are soldiers and fighting in Iraq. That is "my" people. They are not terrorists. Do you have a problem with that or are you going to turn me into the thought police or the punctuation police?

Originally Posted by Dylan

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Just out of curiousity, did you ever actually read that book?

Originally Posted by alias

I could care less if you insult Jesus. I do care when you insult my country and our soldiers. I have family who are in this fight. As long as you talk about America being the same as the terrorists, then this is what you will get. You cannot spit in my face without getting it back. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. You spout your opinions and I spout mine. If you can't take that, then take up a new hobby besides trashing America and our troops. Now to your points about Iraq.

Originally Posted by alias

As far as name calling, you check out foundit66 and tell me how many times he has called me ignorant, dumb, Alzheimers, etc. When you insult my country, you are insulting me. I am entitled to my opinion just as you are without being called ignorant or dumb. It is you and the liberals who think anyone who disagrees with you is dumb. Looks like it goes both ways. So don't play your high and mighty game with me. If you dish it out, prepare to get it back or find someone else to play your propaganda game with. Is there anything in this post you did not understand?

Originally Posted by alias

What book?

Originally Posted by hkbajwa

Alright that's cool. But let me clarify something. YOu are the one who started lumping me together with the "terrorists". In spite of repeated statements that i don't condone this violence you insisted on labelling me as a terrorist because of my belief.

Now you have family in this fight. That sucks massively dude. I think it's a crying shame that your family is risking their lives because of a war on false premises. Read some of previous threads and you will see that i believe the fighting men and women are there because they believe they are doing the right thing. They are not evil.. They are being exploited. The only thing this war has done is make certain people in your country a lot richer. And your family is risking its life for that.

Anyhow while muslims look like terrorists to YOU, YOU look like terrorists to muslims. That's not an insult to you( its not meant as one) .. it's a fact. That is how you look.

I only speak the truth as far as i know it. I don't spit in your face, and i believe that i have been supremely patient with you. I have taken all your insults and discriminatory language. I have accepted that you call me a liar and a goat fucker. I have accepted that you call me religion evil and you call my god a toad. I have accepted that you attack my prophet and i have accepted that you attack my culture. What else am i supposed to accept?


How does foundit's comments about you at all justify your uninhibited attack on me, my person, my culture, religion, and political views???

WHen i criticize your country i SPECIFICALLY note that it is not because americans are evil. It is because you have some greedy people in power. How is that insulting your country? Have i ever wished your destruction?> have i ever preached attacking the US? have i ever denied your right to any opinion? I never called oyu ignorant and i never called oyu dumb... why are you attacking me for things i never said or did?

Why are my opinons propoganda?? I am not trying to poison your minds.. i am trying to discuss and debate. I never dismiss you because of your opinons. I never call you a propogandist.

DO you really believe that it is not possible to believe what i believe? Do you think that i keep a big secret in my heart where i know that what i am saying to you is a lie? do you think i am trying to spread lies so me and my "people" can conquer you? Are you aware that i am trying ot speak honestly, but you think i am lying because my opinoions are not the same as you.

I don't get it man... I am specifically trying to NOT confirm your stereotypes of muslims. I do not attack you, i do not claim to have absolute truth, i do not claim you are evil, i do not claim you will go to hell, i do not get angry when you disagree with me, and i never resort to threats insults or discriminatory rhetoric. I don't support suicide bombings, i don't suport taliban regimes, i don't support suppression of women... why then am i still an evil muslim?

Originally Posted by alias

Let's lay some groundwork here......
Do you believe women are inferior to men?

Originally Posted by alias

We don't think it sucks dude. You don't get it. You have no idea what America is really like except for what you read in the media. There are millions of Ameicans who will fight for our country. When you imply that America is a terrorist nation and our soldiers are no better than the terrorists, you are going to get exactly what I think. I can't help it if that offends you. If you don't want to get offended, then don't offend. I can discuss the issues, but I will not let you imply that we are no better than the terrorists. Like I say, if you can't take it, then find a new hobby.

Let's lay some groundwork here......

Do you believe women are inferior to men?

Originally Posted by alias

We don't think it sucks dude. You don't get it. You have no idea what America is really like except for what you read in the media.

Originally Posted by hkbajwa

You call me a terrorist. Then you say you get offended if i imply that you are no better than a terrorist. Essentially you mean i should say you are better than i for not being a pakistani muslim.

If i did that, then how could i possibly talk to you as an equal?

I am not a ferocious person by any means, but just like you, i will of course never consider another human better than me. All humans are equal. This is not an ego thing. It is the basic truth of life. All humans are equal because "good" and "bad" people are subjective evaluations made by each human for him or herself.

I always talk to you as an equal. I do it because it is the truth.


Don't talk to me like you have to defeat me. Discuss!










P.S. i've travelled across america several times.... How many times you been to a muslim country?? just wondering

Originally Posted by alias

Do you believe women are inferior to men?