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Old 06-03-2006, 12:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lies From The Media
Look at the pictures and you can how the media manipulates you and lies to promote their agenda against our troops.

http://tinyurl.com/yqr7u
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Old 06-03-2006, 01:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Look at the pictures and you can how the media manipulates you and lies to promote their agenda against our troops.

http://tinyurl.com/yqr7u

It works both way alias, like "the war is going great!"
oh wait, the country is erupting into civil war....
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It works both way alias, like "the war is going great!"
oh wait, the country is erupting into civil war....
Gee... Guess who jumps on board immediately to defend the media that is OBVIOUSLY lying.

Hey - it's all good, as long as they're saying what YOU want to hear, regardless of whether or not it's a bold-faced like.
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There was a massacre in Haditha. If there hadn't have been some problem, it wouldn't be under investigation. the media did not invent the circumstances.

That being said, the media does stupid things sometimes, like how the white people in New Orleans were "foraging" while the black people in New Orleans were "looting."
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It works both way alias, like "the war is going great!"
oh wait, the country is erupting into civil war....
I never heard of a war going great. People get killed and lives ruined in every war. You ignore the propaganda. The enemy loves people like you who give the benefit of the doubt to the enemy first and your own country second.
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Quotes from when Clinton committed troops to Bosnia

"You can support the troops but not the president."
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years."
--Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"
--Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

"[The] President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."
--Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)

"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."
--Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush

"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . . I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."
--Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"
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There was a massacre in Haditha. If there hadn't have been some problem, it wouldn't be under investigation. the media did not invent the circumstances.

That being said, the media does stupid things sometimes, like how the white people in New Orleans were "foraging" while the black people in New Orleans were "looting."
The only ones shooting at the rescuers were black people and that is a fact.
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Intelligible child can't seem to tell the difference between a Clinton war he decided to engage in without being attacked and another war where we were clearly attacked. He is confused.

And before you go and tell me that Bush invaded a country that was no threat, let me beat you to it......

The fact is the Iraq war began in 1991 when Saddam invaded Kuwait and never was ended. There was only a cease fire with conditions set by the UN that Saddam never once obeyed during the entire Clinton administration and was using the oil for food program to scam his people and pay money to muslim suicide bombers to kill jews. Then his soldiers were firing on planes. Saddam never obeyed one UN resolution after resolution and then shipped the WBDs to Syria according to one of his own generals while the UN talked and talked and talked.

There, I already addressed your next point. Please proceed child.
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The fact is the Iraq war began in 1991 when Saddam invaded Kuwait and never was ended. There was only a cease fire with conditions set by the UN that Saddam never once obeyed during the entire Clinton administration and was using the oil for food program to scam his people and pay money to muslim suicide bombers to kill jews. Then his soldiers were firing on planes. Saddam never obeyed one UN resolution after resolution and then shipped the WBDs to Syria according to one of his own generals while the UN talked and talked and talked.
1) Which general claimed that?
2) You're very wrong about "Saddam never obeyed one UN resolution after resolution..."

The UN inspection teams were BACK IN IRAQ BEFORE Bush commenced his invasion. Those UN inspection teams EXPLICITLY denounced claims of WMDs.
Don't re-write history...

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/Bx27.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/03/21/iraq.weapons/
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Intelligible child can't seem to tell the difference between a Clinton war he decided to engage in without being attacked and another war where we were clearly attacked. He is confused.

And before you go and tell me that Bush invaded a country that was no threat, let me beat you to it......

The fact is the Iraq war began in 1991 when Saddam invaded Kuwait and never was ended. There was only a cease fire with conditions set by the UN that Saddam never once obeyed during the entire Clinton administration and was using the oil for food program to scam his people and pay money to muslim suicide bombers to kill jews. Then his soldiers were firing on planes. Saddam never obeyed one UN resolution after resolution and then shipped the WBDs to Syria according to one of his own generals while the UN talked and talked and talked.

There, I already addressed your next point. Please proceed child.

How many of the 9/11 hijackers were from Iraq?

Oh yeah. zero. We were not attacked by Iraq.

As for the Gulf War, Kuwait isn't the 51st state. KUWAIT was attacked.

Now, Bosnia is another matter... We helped stop a genocide there.
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