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Old 11-17-2008, 06:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Admirals, generals: Let gays serve openly
ANNAPOLIS, Md. - More than 100 retired generals and admirals called Monday for repeal of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays so they can serve openly, according to a statement obtained by The Associated Press.
The move by the military veterans confronts the incoming administration of President-elect Barack Obama with a thorny political and cultural issue that dogged former President Bill Clinton early in his administration.
"As is the case with Great Britain, Israel, and other nations that allow gays and lesbians to serve openly, our service members are professionals who are able to work together effectively despite differences in race, gender, religion, and sexuality," the officers wrote.

Admirals, generals: Let gays serve openly - Military
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I feel pretty confident in predicting that this unfortunate policy will be retired during Obama's first term.
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What do the currently active duty soldiers say though? They are the ones who actually have to deal with the change.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
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We all know what this means. Soldiers will not be able to take showers anymore without fear of getting ass raped.
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Oh they aren't right now? I mean, there are gay people serving in the military as we speak. Come on PN, wake up. Nobody wants to "ass rape" the willing.
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Oh they aren't right now? I mean, there are gay people serving in the military as we speak. Come on PN, wake up. Nobody wants to "ass rape" the willing.
Everybody knows that ALL gay men seek to ass rape straight men.
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Everybody knows that ALL gay men seek to ass rape straight men.

Like I said. You can't rape the willing.
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There have been gays in the military since there was a military.
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Not necessarily "out" ones though. There have been pedophiles with boy scout troops too, doesn't mean that someone would want their kids going on a outing with a person that professes their love for kids.
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Not necessarily "out" ones though. There have been pedophiles with boy scout troops too, doesn't mean that someone would want their kids going on a outing with a person that professes their love for kids.
Kids are vulnerable and need their parents to protect them from predators and keep them out of harm's way which includes not wanting to expose them to pedophiles; but adults in the military have a choice, if they are homophobic like you and gary, they can stay out of the military.
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