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Old 07-12-2006, 07:53 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Didn't you say that conservatives know history?
Go ahead and dispute it with facts instead of making useless snide remarks.
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Old 07-12-2006, 07:55 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Like "alias" is going to inspire a whole lot of trust and credibility...
Alias is not my name. Is your name indago? Duh!!
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Go ahead and dispute it with facts instead of making useless snide remarks.
Facts?

Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the American soldier.

What more can a human sacrifice than his or her life? That has always been understood as the ultimate sacrifice.

People have made the ultimate sacrifice in the name of freedom and liberty (that it applies to 'total strangers' is assumed) under many different banners and flags.

Sorry for the snide comment, although, I'm not sure how it can get much more snide than "If History was a strong suit of liberals, they would be conservatives."
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Facts?

Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the American soldier.

What more can a human sacrifice than his or her life? That has always been understood as the ultimate sacrifice.

People have made the ultimate sacrifice in the name of freedom and liberty (that it applies to 'total strangers' is assumed) under many different banners and flags.

Sorry for the snide comment, although, I'm not sure how it can get much more snide than "If History was a strong suit of liberals, they would be conservatives."
Your response proves my remark is the truth. No other country has fought to free enslaved people as much as the United States of America. Now here's you chance to prove me wrong.
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Your response proves my remark is the truth. No other country has fought to free enslaved people as much as the United States of America. Now here's you chance to prove me wrong.
Are you kidding?

First of all, the sentence in bold is not the original statement that was made, the statement that I contested.

This is all I'm going to say:

People don't repeatedly call you stupid here because they disagree with your political affiliation.
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:13 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Are you kidding?

First of all, the sentence in bold is not the original statement that was made, the statement that I contested.

This is all I'm going to say:

People don't repeatedly call you stupid here because they disagree with your political affiliation.

Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the American soldier.

Okay Einstein. I stand by this one also. Now it's your turn to prove me wrong instead of complaining about my wording.
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Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the American soldier.

Okay Einstein. I stand by this one also. Now it's your turn to prove me wrong instead of complaining about my wording.
I know you stand by it. Want to know why?
It was the first sentence of this entire thread.

In fact, as you may or may not have noticed, I contested that statement in post #53. Now, I know #53 is a whopping 52 posts away from #1, but bear with me for a minute.

Well, before I posted #53, I suppose I made a snide comment. But you did the right thing and asked me to contest with something else other than a snide comment.

So I made the point that death is the ultimate sacrifice. Americans are not the only people that have fought and died in the name of liberty and freedom, furthermore, they are not the only people who have had countless soldiers make the ultimate sacrifice even when the freedom and liberty they fight for is not just for them but total strangers as well.

For some strange reason, you decided that this statement proved yours was true. I wasn't trying knock you on wording; I was just pointing out that I was contesting the original statement, the first sentence of post #1 in this thread.

I told you people don't call you stupid here because of your political affiliation.

After all this, you go ahead and repost the first sentence from post #1, the statement I contested in post #53 (and again in this post because I have had to repeat myself in an effort to make this clear to you). I'm not sure why you would post it again, as if it was a different statement, and ask me to prove it wrong. It bewilders me. Did you want me to copy and paste post #53 again? I'm not sure.

What I'm sure of is that people don't call you stupid here because of your political affiliation.
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Old 07-13-2006, 09:39 PM   #58 (permalink)
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You have said it yourself. Our soldiers risk and give their lives to protect our freedom. Because of this, our freedoms should be respected and protected by the law, not denied. A flag is a piece of fabric, but the right to burn a flag is a freedom, and it's a freedom that our soldiers fought for as much as any other freedom.

Our soliders did not fight to strip people's freedoms, so it does not make sense that we should strip people's freedom unless we absolutely have to. Now tell me why we absolutely have to strip people's freedom to burn the flag? Stripping any freedom is far more an insult to our soliders than protecting that freedom.
I completely agree.

However, my rage build when I see these jackasses burning a flag. They may have every right to burn the flag, but I would be lying if I were to say I would sit back and let it happen.
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I know you stand by it. Want to know why?
It was the first sentence of this entire thread.

In fact, as you may or may not have noticed, I contested that statement in post #53. Now, I know #53 is a whopping 52 posts away from #1, but bear with me for a minute.

Well, before I posted #53, I suppose I made a snide comment. But you did the right thing and asked me to contest with something else other than a snide comment.

So I made the point that death is the ultimate sacrifice. Americans are not the only people that have fought and died in the name of liberty and freedom, furthermore, they are not the only people who have had countless soldiers make the ultimate sacrifice even when the freedom and liberty they fight for is not just for them but total strangers as well.

For some strange reason, you decided that this statement proved yours was true. I wasn't trying knock you on wording; I was just pointing out that I was contesting the original statement, the first sentence of post #1 in this thread.

I told you people don't call you stupid here because of your political affiliation.

After all this, you go ahead and repost the first sentence from post #1, the statement I contested in post #53 (and again in this post because I have had to repeat myself in an effort to make this clear to you). I'm not sure why you would post it again, as if it was a different statement, and ask me to prove it wrong. It bewilders me. Did you want me to copy and paste post #53 again? I'm not sure.

What I'm sure of is that people don't call you stupid here because of your political affiliation.
You still haven't told me which country has sacrificed MORE than the American soldier for strangers. Every country has lost soldiers in war. The point was America has given more than anyone. Who? Which country?

And people don't call you stupid for no reason as we can plainly see the evidence in every thread. How come your stupid idiotic mother didn't have an abortion like a good little liberal? If you want to toss insults, you're gonna be sorry. You've been warned.

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You still haven't told me which country has sacrificed MORE than the American soldier for strangers. Every country has lost soldiers in war. The point was America has given more than anyone. Who? Which country?
How can you prove that it is true?

Either way, the original statement talks about no other soldier than American soldiers have sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers.

Do you agree that other soldiers in history have fought for the freedom and liberty of total strangers?

Do you agree that the ultimate sacrifice, the sacrifice were talking about, is giving your life and dying in the name of that cause?

If you answered yes to both, then surely you can see that many others have died giving the same sacrifice as American soldiers. It's not like American soldiers die harder or die to a further extent than normal human beings.
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