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Old 08-08-2006, 06:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You cant invade other peoples countries and then call them "terrorists" when they fight back....that is perposterous.

Its a Law of God.

And you cannot dictate to a foreign people from the halls of the UN and give away their homes and their land and then complain and call them "terrorists" when they fight back...that is perposterous.

It is a Law of God.

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Old 08-08-2006, 06:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Then you would be for a ceasefire, and negotiations. Two things that Hezbollah offered numerous times but the Israelis refused.



I agree that anti-semitism is a belief shrowded in ignorance. To some people when they see the attrocities of Israel, they for some reason get mad at Jews. And then really stupid things go down like in Seattle. And I agree that Lucidthots has fallen victim to this ignorance.

However, I think its completely irresponsible to think the Israeli's aren't directly responsible for the acts which they are doing. Are you claiming the Israeli's have no control over their armed forces? The Israelis have the power to chose their own policies, and their own wartime tactics. Consequently they have chosen a policy in which the innocent suffer. A policy which is only backed by "well they did it to us!".

You have said numerous times that you're probably older than the rest of us on this forum, then it should be clear to you that this conflict didn't start weeks ago with the kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers, it started long ago. Palestine is at the heart of the matter. Thousands of Palestinians were kicked out of their homes. Some now live in Jordan, but many live in Gaza and the West Bank. I don't know why you don't see this, but West Bank is under military occupation (and Golan Heights for that matter) by the Israelis. Gaza was under military occupation until the ground forces pulled out in an attempt to create the illusion of freedom. However, anyone with basic unskewed knowlege of the situation knows that Gaza is under constant attack from Israel; assassinations, artillery bombings, kinappings, economic strangulation, and so on. And anyone with basic unskewed knowlege knows there is a slow take-over of the West Bank.

Israel and its policies are guilty of attrocities. And then because of unflinching bias in news outlets, there is a great confusion to exactly why there are organizations that fight Israel. There are the small radical organizations that you are right in saying that they want to see all Israelis and Jews pushed into the Mediterranean. But the majority of Palestinians only want the occupations to end, and Israeli aggression to end so that they can form a stable government and economy. Most don't want to see the total destruction of Israel, only the end of Israel's policies of colonialism and brutal occupation.

So its utterly stupid to assume the Lebanese and Palestinians are directly responsible. Israel has the power over their policies. They have the power to live in peace if they want it. Unfortunately, with them, there is no compromise. Even as Israeli-biased the UN Resolution is, they want nothing to do with it. Even when Hezbollah said they were willing to have a ceasefire and go into negotiations for possible de-militarization of Hezbollah, Israel refused. Why? Because negotiations means they have to give concessions. Maybe they have to stop the slow take-over of the West Bank. Maybe they have to release many innocent Lebanese prisoners. But its ignorance mostly. Israel believes for the most part that the Lebanese should be punished for not getting rid of Hezbollah. And they think Palestinians should be punished for voting in Hamas in a democratic election.

The irony of it all, however, is that this "punishing" will only galvanize the Palestinian and Lebanese populations into supporting these radical groups even more. And peace and co-existance will only move further away from being a reality.

Of course hezbully wants a cease fire. They are getting their asses kicked in and need time to regroup and rearm. You're not too up on this are you? Israel has the right to defend itself. If Hezbully had soldiers at our border whose goal was to anihilate us and destroy our country and kidnapped our soldiers, what do you think our response would be? I sincerely hope there is not one single shred of evidence that hezbully ever existed. I hope they are laid on the dunghills of others before them. Lost in the memory of good people forever.
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You cant invade other peoples countries and then call them "terrorists" when they fight back....that is perposterous.

Its a Law of God.

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Israel is a sovereign nation. Just because you don't want them there means nothing. You and all your buddies better get used to it you're all going to die trying to destroy Israel. Israel and the USA will never let Israel be destroyed. If you keep trying, all that is going to happen is your own destruction and that is a promise.

By the way, the laws of God are dead. They died on the cross you stupid ignorant nazi puppet.
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Islamofacists who murder people because they hate people of another religion or race.
You are Michael Savage's little hand puppet.

When are you going to realize you are being brainwashed and manipulated by Jews into thinking whatever they want you to think?

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Old 08-08-2006, 06:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Israel is a sovereign nation. Just because you don't want them there means nothing. You and all your buddies better get used to it you're all going to die trying to destroy Israel. Israel and the USA will never let Israel be destroyed. If you keep trying, all that is going to happen is your own destruction and that is a promise.

By the way, the laws of God are dead. They died on the cross you stupid ignorant nazi puppet.

The Laws of God live in the hearts of man.

Everyone has this Law written in their heart....that if your nation is invaded and under military occupation....you have a moral right and duty to fight for your people and your property.

Invading people and stealing their land and killing them and torturing them is a criminal act.....just becasue they are nearly defenseless doesnt give you the right.....that is caveman morality.

You are a criminal.....you adhere to a criminal ideology of theft and torture and murder of people....

And the saddest part is.....you get nothing out of it.....you are just a spokesmouth for a bunch of Jews and their associates..... they use you because you are stupid enough to believe their lies......they dont even need to pay you.....they just tell you what to think and say, and you repeat it like a stupid little parrot.

They are manipulating you....and you go around day after day as their cheerleader......you are a fool.


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You are Michael Savage's little hand puppet.

When are you going to realize you are being brainwashed and manipulated by Jews into thinking whatever they want you to think?

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Go fuck yourself. You're nothing but a nazi who is calling for the destruction of the Jewish race and the nation of Israel.

Speaking of puppets, isn't this your daddy?

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The Laws of God live in the hearts of man.

Everyone has this Law written in their heart....that if your nation is invaded and under military occupation....you have a moral right and duty to fight for your people and your property.

Invading people and stealing their land and killing them and torturing them is a criminal act.....just becasue they are nearly defenseless doesnt make it okay.

You are a criminal.....you adhere to a criminal ideology of theft and torture and murder of people....

And the saddest part is.....you get nothing out of it.....you are just a spokesmouth for a bunch of Jews and their associates..... they use you because you are stupid enough to believe their lies......they dont even need to pay you.....they just tell you what to think and say, and you repeat it like a stupid little parrot.

They are manipulating you....and you go around day after day as their cheerleader......you are a fool.

And if we ever came face to face I would spit in your eye and you would cower and run and hide. You're a big man on the internet calling for the extermination of a race of people. You should be maggot food. That's all your good for. The sooner you die the better.
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You're a big man on the internet calling for the extermination of a race of people.

Once again you have proven conclusively that you are a mindless zionist robot.

Please show me the link where I call for the extermination of people?

The fact is....your Jew mind controller Savage Weiner is the one who is calling for the mass extermination of human beings....and I have heard other Jews on the radio calling for the mass extermination of human beings in just the last week on KFI 640 AM....such as Bill Handel.

The crime?

Disobedience to the Jew.

When you disobey a Jew they become psychopathic and want to kill everyone....its very common that jews on the radio call for genocide against Arabs...just listen to Alias' mind controller....the Savage Weiner.

But not just against Arabs....I heard Michael Medved (Jew) call for nuclear extermination against Russian people when they disobeyed the Jew.

This is what Russian kids look like:


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Once again you have proven conclusively that you are a mindless zionist robot.

Please show me the link where I call for the extermination of people?

The fact is....your Jew mind controller Savage Weiner is the one who is calling for the mass extermination of human beings....and I have heard other Jews on the radio calling for the mass extermination of human beings in just the last week on KFI 640 AM....such as Bill Handel.

The crime?

Disobedience to the Jew.

When you disobey a Jew they become psychopathic and want to kill everyone....its very common that jews on the radio call for genocide against Arabs...just listen to Alias' mind controller....the Savage Weiner.

But not just against Arabs....I heard Michael Medved (Jew) call for nuclear extermination against Russian people when they disobeyed the Jew.

This is what Russian kids look like:


How else are you going to destroy Israel unless you exterminate all the Jews? Take your hate and shove it up your nazi ass. I sincerely hope you end up like your daddy with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to your maggot-infested brain in some hole somewhere.
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You cant invade other peoples countries and then call them "terrorists" when they fight back....that is perposterous.

Its a Law of God.

And you cannot dictate to a foreign people from the halls of the UN and give away their homes and their land and then complain and call them "terrorists" when they fight back...that is perposterous.

It is a Law of God.

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And I suppose you're his prophet, Mr. Meshuggah, since you know all of these things and have no evidence.
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