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Old 08-11-2006, 03:52 PM   #21 (permalink)
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How did Israel pulling out of Lebanon 6 years ago create terrorists? You say by invading Iraq, we created terrorists, yet Israel pulled out of Lebanon and that created terrorists. Explain that one to me.

What does Lebanon have to do with 9/11 and the war in Iraq? Not a damn thing.


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Old 08-11-2006, 04:16 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Names of the guys caught.

Umir Hussain, 24, London E14
Muhammed Usman Saddique, 24, London E17
Waheed Zaman, 22, London E17
Assan Abdullah Khan, 22, London E17
Waseem Kayani, 28, High Wycombe
Waheed Arafat Khan, 24, London E17
Cossor Ali, 24, London E17
Tayib Rauf, 21, Birmingham
Ibrahim Savant, 26, London E17
Osman Adam Khatib, 20, London E17
Shamin Mohammed Uddin, 36, Stoke Newington
Amin Asmin Tariq, 23, London E17
Shazad Khuram Ali, 27, High Wycombe
Tanvir Hussain, 24, London E10
Umar Islam, 28, (born Brian Young) High Wycombe
Assad Sarwar, 25, High Wycombe
Abdullah Ali, 26, London E17
Abdul Muneem Patel, 17, London E5
Nabeel Hussain, 21, Waltham Forest


Now let's see.............I bet they are Baptists or Lutherans. Whadya think? They couldn't be muslim because Islam is a religion of peace.
They aren't muslims. They are terrorists.
Unless you consider McVeigh a Christian.
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They aren't muslims. They are terrorists.
Unless you consider McVeigh a Christian.
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They aren't muslims. They are terrorists.
Unless you consider McVeigh a Christian.

McViegh?

You think McVeigh planted all those bombs inside the Murrah building?

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What does Lebanon have to do with 9/11 and the war in Iraq? Not a damn thing.


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I never said it did. Focus. Now try again.

If fighting terrorists creates more terrorists, then why did Hezbollah (terrorist group) multiply after Israel pulled out of Lebanon?

And yes they are a terrorist group. They have hijacked planes in the past and they are a political party with an army. They are not a separate state. Now try again.
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I never said it did. Focus. Now try again.

If fighting terrorists creates more terrorists, then why did Hezbollah (terrorist group) multiply after Israel pulled out of Lebanon?

And yes they are a terrorist group. They have hijacked planes in the past and they are a political party with an army. They are not a separate state. Now try again.
They probably multiplied because of the fighting in the region. Violence breads violence. Just like we see in Iraq.
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McViegh?

You think McVeigh planted all those bombs inside the Murrah building?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RA...K/ok_city1.wmv

Interesting point. All I ever heard is that McViegh parked a truck loaded with explosives by the building, not actually IN the building.

What do you think happened? What motive would anyone have for taking down a federal building in Oklahoma?
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I'm not surprised by those quotes. The last thing you want to broadcast to the world is that you're staying up nights trying to find him and are worried. Leaders say a lot of things during war. There are a lof things said on purpose and for a reason. When did we find Hitler?

Also, it doesn't matter who is behind it. What matters is that it was stopped and how knows who knows how many lives were saved. That is what matters. Bin Laden is not the only nut job running around trying to murder innocent people. You do know that don't you?
Where's bin Laden........
For your future reference, here's what Bush has said about bin Laden at various points in time, depending on how he was trying to spin things:
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01
"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
"...Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county [sic]. Now he's maybe in control of a cave. He's on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we're going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that's what's happening. He's on the run, if he's running at all. So we don't know whether he's in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open -- we just don't know...."
- Bush, in remarks in a Press Availability with the Press Travel Pool,
The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on
official White House site
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, responding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

—"Because he's hiding…" Bush, explaining why Osama bin Laden has yet to be captured. (Washington Post interview, Jan. 16, 2005)

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Interesting point. All I ever heard is that McViegh parked a truck loaded with explosives by the building, not actually IN the building.

What do you think happened? What motive would anyone have for taking down a federal building in Oklahoma?
Laws against "terrorism" to go after the "Patriot Militias" that were forming.

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Laws against "terrorism" to go after the "Patriot Militias" that were forming.

I don't follow you. Spell it out for me. You think they took out that building to go after militias? Why not just go after the militias?
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