Defending the Truth

There were always Jewish people in Israel. Granted, not in the same numbers, but it's not like it was wall to wall Arabs.

Oh, and The Jewish people didn't form Israel, technically. Britain did.

For a sliver of land the size of New Jersey, it's switched hands a number of times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

Interestingly enough, Arabs didn't control the area until around the time the Dark Ages were going on in Europe.

Since you seem to be concerned with who was there first, it really depends on how far back you feel like going. Since the Canaanites don't exist anymore, I would say the Jews were there first.

hevusa, you shut up murdering them other damn people is moral as hell!

"I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."
~ Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres, October 3rd, 2001, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.
So they think!---ic

"Today, though barely three percent of the nation's population is Jewish, close to half its billionaires are Jews. The chief executive officers of the three major television networks and the four largest film studios are Jews,"
~ Ben Ginsberg, a jewish author

"Israel controls the United States Senate." ~ Sen. William Fulbright
So they think!---ic

Motto: "To wage war by way of deception" ~Israel's Mossad secret service
So they think-ic

"There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn’t exist." ~ Golda Meir
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golda_Meir

"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." ~ Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994

"Those who labor in the earth are the Chosen People of God, if ever he had a chosen people." ~ Thomas Jefferson

"How soon the labor of men would make a paradise of the earth were it not for misgovernment and a diversion of his energies to selfish interests." ~ Thomas Jefferson

The Jews, I find are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog. ~ Harry S. Truman July 21, 1947 (Diary)

Who was on the land we now call "America" when the "Indians" arrived? WHAT ABOUT THAT QUESTION DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

In like manner, why do you only go back to a "convenient" time in history regarding the land now called Israel? The FACT is that "Israel" was there thousands of years before Palestine even existed.


Now, look me in the eyes and repeat this, so that I know you understand.

The land belonged to the red indians. I say this based on the same rationale by which the jews occupied Israel.

If we know this then how can there be such unequivocal support for Israel?

I jsut don't get it. If the rest of the world got together and told you that you must shove off cuz ur on Native Red Indian land, how would you feel as americans?

Thanks for the info. I'm just trying to grasp the overall situation and you are helping me.

So were arabs kicked out because of the formation of Israel? Is that where some of the animosity stems from?

Animals? Tell me who was there before the Indian tribes. Stop beating around the bush.

Mammoths and giant sloths.

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Kind of sort of not really. It's complicated...

Basically, this was around the time that the British were releasing a lot of their colonies. Many of the Arabs in the surrounding area (Palestine, Jordan, Syria, etc.) had ideas about putting the caliphate back together, or more secular, socialist ideas of pan-Arabism. Many people didn't really care either way. I think I mentioned the large number of land sales to Jews that were going on just before the establishment of the State of Israel. The UN drew up a charter, and the other Arab nations didn't accept it because it put a wedge in their pan-Arab dreams. As for the fleeing that went on, that was actually because of a desire to expell Arabs, but the decision to give Arabs the option of going to Arab controlled areas once the Arab armies from surrounding nations opted to attack Israel in 1947 and 1948. This was a lot more humane than the Arab Legion's habit of just killing all of the Jews.

A less than shocking example would be when the Arab Legion's Sixth Battilion conquered Kfar Etzion. The soldiers proceeded to massacre 120 Jews. This was consistant with general Arab Legion policy. Jews taken prisoner in convoy battles were almost always put to death and mutilated by their captors.

Around seventy five thousand upwardly mobile, middle class and wealthy Arabs fled to places like Egypt during the late 1930's, in order to escape the violence, including most of the political leaders of the AHC and Haifa National Committee. They may have feared a Husseini-ruled Palestine as much as Jewish domination, if not moreso.

Often, the AHC and Arab League would liquidate towns if it looked like the Jews were going to take the town over. This was probably responsible for the displacement of between two and three thousand Arabs.

There's a lot more... I would recommend checking out The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1947-1949 by Benny Morris, and of course, Alan Dershowitz's book The Case for Israel.

Thanks for the info! I will check out those books as well.

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Jews lie pathologically about history....just read their Bible.


They made up all that stuff about "Solomon" and "Noah" and "Joshua" and the rest.

None of these ficticious characters ever existed.....they were at best plagiarisms of other mythological characters or historical figures.

None of these people in their history ever existed.....its just constant lying.


That is what Joo's doo....they lie lie lie about history.

The biggest mistake a human being could ever make is asking a Joo about history facts.

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