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Old 08-22-2006, 01:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bush: Cutting Terror Fighting Funding...
WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration quietly tried to cut $6 million that was earmarked for developing new explosives detection technology -- even as the British terror plot was unfolding.

Officials wanted to use the money instead on federal building protection. Congressional leaders rejected the idea.

The maneuver was one in a series of Homeland Security Department steps that left lawmakers and some of the department's own experts questioning the administration's commitment to create better anti-terror technologies.

An investigation by The Associated Press showed the department failed to spend $200 million in research and development money from past years, forcing lawmakers to rescind the money during the summer session of Congress.

The Bush administration has also been slow to start testing a new liquid explosives detector that the Japanese government provided to the United States earlier in 2006.

The terrorist plot to blow up trans-Atlantic passenger jets would have involved liquid explosives.

http://www.nbc5i.com/news/9670553/detail.html


If the Japanese liquid explosives detector had involved wire-tapping U.S. citizens, I bet Bush would have tried it...
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You're not doing very well trying to make Bush an eavesdropper on Joe Blow. it aint working. We are listening for terrorist activity and the American people know it. You and your buddies keep pounding that point all the way to election day and I sincerely hope you do because it's not resonating with the American people. Have a read:

"Polls show voters might be more inclined to vote for Democrats than Republicans, but there's little in the polling data that suggests wiretaps are the reason.

The economy? Gas prices? Iraq? High health care costs? All have voters worried and concerned. But warrantless wiretaps? It rates hardly a blip on the election radar screen.

In fact, polls show that voters on the whole are quite ho-hum about the issue.

Last January, after the news media trumpeted the revelation that the government was conducting these wiretaps — often using inflammatory terms such as "domestic spying," illegal spying" or "citizen spying" — a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll found that a majority of respondents — 59% — said the government had not gone too far in restricting citizen liberties to fight terrorism.

And a Pew Poll in February found that 54% of Americans thought it was OK for the government to eavesdrop on suspected terrorists without a court order.

That despite some shrill reporting that gave the impression government agents were listening in on phone calls to your mother. It wasn't so, and most Americans knew that".

http://tinyurl.com/zfz8o

Looks like you're beating a dead horse, but you keep right on beating it man. I love it.

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You're not doing very well trying to make Bush an eavesdropper on Joe Blow. it aint working. We are listening for terrorist activity and the American people know it.
They are listening for terrorist activity BY WIRE-TAPPING AMERICAN CIVILIANS.

THAT is the point you don't get...


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You and your buddies keep pounding that point all the way to election day and I sincerely hope you do because it's not resonating with the American people.
This has nothing to do really with the American people.
It's about the LEGALITY and CONSTITUTIONALITY of the move.
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Have a read:
"Polls show voters might be more inclined to vote for Democrats than Republicans....
ROFLMAO!
Did THAT portion sink into your skull, Alias?

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Why no comment on the fact that Bush is slacking on the front for TECHNOLOGY in the fight against terrorism?
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They are listening for terrorist activity BY WIRE-TAPPING AMERICAN CIVILIANS.

THAT is the point you don't get...



This has nothing to do really with the American people.
It's about the LEGALITY and CONSTITUTIONALITY of the move.
If the majority don't care if Jane goes 70 in a 65 MPH zone, that doesn't mean she won't get a ticket...



ROFLMAO!
Did THAT portion sink into your skull, Alias?

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Why no comment on the fact that Bush is slacking on the front for TECHNOLOGY in the fight against terrorism?
You seemed to miss the point that no matter if the public is going to vote for a democrat over a republican, the majority of the American voters think your issue of wiretapping is a nonissue. That is the point of the article. Nice try slick.
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You seemed to miss the point that no matter if the public is going to vote for a democrat over a republican, the majority of the American voters think your issue of wiretapping is a nonissue. That is the point of the article. Nice try slick.
And my point is that your point is moot.
The "majority of American voters" don't get to decide what is and is not illegal.

Do you realize that the "Majority of American voters" were fed up with the Republican's stink over the Lewinsky issue?

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Why no comment on the fact that Bush is slacking on the front for TECHNOLOGY in the fight against terrorism?

If Republicans support our troops, then why are more Democrats supporting the head injury health of our troops than Republicans?
If Bush is soooo concerned about terrorism, then why is he slashing funding on technology to combat terrorism?
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