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Old 02-26-2007, 02:55 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Well I recall that day and the next three days after. I was arrested and toss in the mental ward because i snapped and beat the hell out of a tree with a bat...... but i am much better now..i hope.

Have you seen a movie called "The Grounded Truth"?
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:12 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I had just come back from an early morning class at college in denmark. Channel surfing and there is was. First i thought it was just a bad fire. But after that i was glued to the TV all day.

Next day and uni our head of department came and stopped all classes and started a discussion. I was all messed up. I had never seen anything as scary in my life. Second of all i honestly didn't know what Pakistan was going to do. The fundo parties in Pakistan were real strong and i honestly wasn't sure Musharraf would be able to align pakistan against the Taliban.

I was afraid of civil war. It massively sucked.
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:23 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Have you seen a movie called "The Grounded Truth"?
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Old 02-26-2007, 09:56 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:02 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Where were you on September 11, 2001?
I was at work, approximately 30 miles from ground zero. One of my co-workers got a phone call from his wife a few minutes after the first plane hit the north tower. And she was worried. It turns out that friends of their's were staying overnight not too far from The World Trade Center complex. My co-worker and I then jumped on my computer to see if we could get some details about what we thought at the time was just a plane crash. And, as limited details came in through the internet, we then decided to go check out the news on the TV in our plant's cafeteria to see if we could get more detailed information about the plane crash. And, as we sat there in the cafeteria taking in the information about the plane crash, the second plane hit the south tower right before our eyes. Needless to say, we didn't walk away from the TV...and neither did the vast majority of the day-shift hourly workforce in our plant. And we continued to watch in horror as the two towers fell.

Living in the New York metropolitan area, it is difficult NOT to know someone who knows someone who knows someone personally who died in that terrorist attack on that awful day. In fact, best friends of my friend's cousin, a couple who both worked in the towers of the World Trade Center, died that day. My co-worker's friends were fortunate-they had gotten up early that morning and went uptown before the event took place. But, of course, almost 3000 people weren't so fortunate, including the passengers who died on the four planes involved in the attack and the people who died at The Pentagon-and the brave emergency workers who tried their very best to help save lives.

All I know is that, right now, over five years since the attack, I feel that justice still hasn't been served. Those innocent people sure better not have died in vain. This is all I'm going to say about this topic.
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Old 02-27-2007, 01:16 AM   #46 (permalink)
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All I know is that, right now, over five years since the attack, I feel that justice still hasn't been served. Those innocent people sure better not have died in vain. This is all I'm going to say about this topic.
Well dude considering that i was almost brought to tears sitting thousands of miles away i can only imagine how you felt.

However i am interested.. What is justice in this situation.. Revenge or Resolution?

Unfortunately in cannot be both as revenge only leads to greater revenge. In the sense that if you exact revenge for an action, then the other side invariably feel entitled to THEIR revenge. Besides this 9/11 action in itself is considered a REVENGE acion by those who supported this atrocity. (so we kinda wind up in a chicken and egg argument )

But my question still stands. What would be adequate justice in this situation.

I ask this question because i am not sure that this has been answered more than extremely vaguely since the happening.
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:30 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Well dude considering that i was almost brought to tears sitting thousands of miles away i can only imagine how you felt.

However i am interested.. What is justice in this situation.. Revenge or Resolution?

Unfortunately in cannot be both as revenge only leads to greater revenge. In the sense that if you exact revenge for an action, then the other side invariably feel entitled to THEIR revenge. Besides this 9/11 action in itself is considered a REVENGE acion by those who supported this atrocity. (so we kinda wind up in a chicken and egg argument )

But my question still stands. What would be adequate justice in this situation.

I ask this question because i am not sure that this has been answered more than extremely vaguely since the happening.
I wish revenge was available. But the only way to go is conflict resolution.
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Old 03-06-2007, 07:26 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Well dude considering that i was almost brought to tears sitting thousands of miles away i can only imagine how you felt.

However i am interested.. What is justice in this situation.. Revenge or Resolution?

Unfortunately in cannot be both as revenge only leads to greater revenge. In the sense that if you exact revenge for an action, then the other side invariably feel entitled to THEIR revenge. Besides this 9/11 action in itself is considered a REVENGE acion by those who supported this atrocity. (so we kinda wind up in a chicken and egg argument )

But my question still stands. What would be adequate justice in this situation.

I ask this question because i am not sure that this has been answered more than extremely vaguely since the happening.
OK, I am not sure if you can handle this but..Kill every body from the country/area that attacked us.REVENGE is sweet, and i am only human...i knowwhat your thinking, "he is one sick person" yet i can live with it,, for now,,maybe in time God will slap me in the back of the head..
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:08 PM   #49 (permalink)
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OK, I am not sure if you can handle this but..Kill every body from the country/area that attacked us.REVENGE is sweet, and i am only human...i knowwhat your thinking, "he is one sick person" yet i can live with it,, for now,,maybe in time God will slap me in the back of the head..
Somebody OUGHT to slap you in the back of the head, like right now. That's fucking ridiculous. Not everybody from the damn "country/area that attacked us" is involved!
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Old 03-08-2007, 12:42 AM   #50 (permalink)
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It was my freshman year of highschool. I was in geography class. The teacher from the next room over came running in telling our teacher to turn ont he TV the WTC had just been attacked. The teacher turned it on, and we sat and watched a minute. And then suddenly, we saw the next plane hit before our very eyes.

It was quiet. The kind of quiet that makes you deaf.

School was a blur. I was sad. But more importantly, I was pissed. And still am. Because not only did they do so much damage that day, the US has allowed them to still do us damage to this day. And how? Because for one day our nation was unified. For one day we all wanted the same thing. Justice. And now, our nation is split on opionions about the "War on Terror".

Anyways, I didn't realize how much this would effect me untill I met my husband, who lived 30 minutes away from downtown NYC.
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