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Old 09-14-2006, 01:56 PM   #31 (permalink)
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You're fully of crap. You should be ashamed of yourself and embarrassed - and you probably would be, if you were a little smarter. But obviously you're not.

Is that what your little "Jim Jones".... Bush cult told you to think?


THE REPUBLICAN PARTY








(*Note: these people were actually murdred by the CIA.
The Guyana suicides were staged.)

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Old 09-14-2006, 02:04 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Is that what your little "Jim Jones".... Bush cult told you to think?


THE REPUBLICAN PARTY








(*Note: these people were actually murdred by the CIA.
The Guyana suicides were staged.)

You're a moron. A completely deluded moron.

I'm not wasting any more time on your stupidity.
Old 09-14-2006, 02:06 PM   #33 (permalink)
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You're a moron. A completely deluded moron.

I'm not wasting any more time on your stupidity.


Oh.... yeah.....sure......

Its 12:00PM Pacific Time.....

Sean Shammity is coming on....time for you to go drink your Kool Aide.



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Old 09-14-2006, 02:27 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking too.
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I think its funny how the Bushbots are always comparing themselves to the "terrorists."




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Old 09-14-2006, 08:21 PM   #36 (permalink)
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You're confused and full of shit.

Hey.....tell me again how your are better than the "terrorists."
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Only a liberal would see the moral equivalency that you see between America and terrorists. You conveniently omit the facts which define terrorism and a free society. The ideals and goals of America and the islamofascists are not the same goals, yet you have no problem in your mind of seeing equivalency. That is easy to do if you don't think and reason which is the only way to uphold your argument. This coming from a citizen of a country that knowlingly harbors terrorists and is run by a military dictator.

Hey i never brought up ultimate goals. The argument from my side has always been the same... the methods used by the american government are more deadly, more destructive and completely counter-productive to their objective of peace.

Lik ei said two wrongs do not make a right. Terrorists use violence. It's wrong and they shoudl be condemned. But american offensives have been MORE deadly to the world than all terrorist attacks in history.

You know, it is sad that you are unable to look beyond the ethnicity and background of a person when evaluating an opinion. That is why you will always be roughly as sophisticated as a moderately intelligent simian in your opinions and argumentation.
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Hey i never brought up ultimate goals. The argument from my side has always been the same... the methods used by the american government are more deadly, more destructive and completely counter-productive to their objective of peace.

Lik ei said two wrongs do not make a right. Terrorists use violence. It's wrong and they shoudl be condemned. But american offensives have been MORE deadly to the world than all terrorist attacks in history.

You know, it is sad that you are unable to look beyond the ethnicity and background of a person when evaluating an opinion. That is why you will always be roughly as sophisticated as a moderately intelligent simian in your opinions and argumentation.
This has NOTHING to do with ethnicity and religious bigotry.

It has to do with MUSLIM TERRORISTS INTENTIONALLY TARGETING INNOCENT CIVILIANS.

American soldiers do NOT do that.


Until you admit that, there is nothing more that you can say that I will even consider listening to. You're already hinting at it, without being willing to admit it. You might as well admit it and get it over with.
Old 09-15-2006, 10:33 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Fucking horse shit, just blow the fuckers up already. It's ok to make a cemetary but not bomb one. Would have been better to blow htem up and say oops sorry about that. Would have definately been less said about that.
Just out of curiousity...
Is it just these specific circumstances that you base your reply on?
Or is it just policy in general which you don't feel the U.S. should follow, on any occasion?

I think the policy in general comes from a time-honored "rules of war" type policy whereby two warring nations are given time to gather their dead and bury them without fear of attack. A sign of respect to the fallen warriors.
Of course, there is a LOT that is different inbetween that "time-honored" policy, and this situation.

Personally, I think I would want to respect the boundaries of an actual church or mosque (the building) and not attack it, but I am significantly less inclined to balk at bombing these SPECIFIC targets in the cemetary.

It could be a huge political mess if you do though.
I guess one of my major concerns would be how the Muslim religion (not the extremists) would view such an attack. If such a move would cause serious religious feedback, it might be advisable to hold back, based on possible sympathy garnered towards the terrorists.

Just some additional thoughts...
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Just out of curiousity...
Is it just these specific circumstances that you base your reply on?
Or is it just policy in general which you don't feel the U.S. should follow, on any occasion?

I think the policy in general comes from a time-honored "rules of war" type policy whereby two warring nations are given time to gather their dead and bury them without fear of attack. A sign of respect to the fallen warriors.
Of course, there is a LOT that is different inbetween that "time-honored" policy, and this situation.

Personally, I think I would want to respect the boundaries of an actual church or mosque (the building) and not attack it, but I am significantly less inclined to balk at bombing these SPECIFIC targets in the cemetary.

It could be a huge political mess if you do though.
I guess one of my major concerns would be how the Muslim religion (not the extremists) would view such an attack. If such a move would cause serious religious feedback, it might be advisable to hold back, based on possible sympathy garnered towards the terrorists.

Just some additional thoughts...
That's a good point - even from a gay guy!

If there's no "honored truce" for anything, then even ambulances and hospitals become targets. Churches or mosques - where innocent people are legitimately going about their own form of worship - are targets.

But here's what I think is so infuriating... The Fundy Terrorists are hiding in ambulances, stockpiling munitions in mosques, and disguising themselves as civilians. THEY have completely thrown out all conventional "courtesies" of war. And many civilians are not only letting it happen, they're helping them.

So what is the right thing to do?
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