Defending the Truth

foundit66 · 09-15-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

If there's no "honored truce" for anything, then even ambulances and hospitals become targets. Churches or mosques - where innocent people are legitimately going about their own form of worship - are targets.
But here's what I think is so infuriating... The Fundy Terrorists are hiding in ambulances, stockpiling munitions in mosques, and disguising themselves as civilians. THEY have completely thrown out all conventional "courtesies" of war. And many civilians are not only letting it happen, they're helping them.
So what is the right thing to do?

In that situation, I'm not sure if there is a "right thing to do".
Possibly a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" type situation.

Not much of a response from me, but I'm assuming your question is more rhetorical, and it's point is acknowledged without contest.
If you are looking for an answer to the question, just let me know.

alias · 09-15-2006, 11:22 AM

We would have been doing them a favor by blowing up all those murders in the cemetary. We would have dug the hole for them and they would already be in it. No muss, no fuss.

foundit66 · 09-15-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by alias

We would have been doing them a favor by blowing up all those murders in the cemetary. We would have dug the hole for them and they would already be in it. No muss, no fuss.

I'm going to take it as read that this was an example of sarcasm, and not an attempt to actually intelligently debate the issues regarding the potential act...

Jefferson · 09-15-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

In that situation, I'm not sure if there is a "right thing to do".
Possibly a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" type situation.

Not much of a response from me, but I'm assuming your question is more rhetorical, and it's point is acknowledged without contest.
If you are looking for an answer to the question, just let me know.

Again, the problem is that you're dealing with people who are -basically - savages. And while it's always a bad idea to "stoop to their level", I'm not sure what else there is to do.

I do NOT think you can EVER deal with terrorists. You have to kill them. They're like an extremely aggressive form of cancer. Radical treatment, or it WILL kill you!

foundit66 · 09-15-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

Again, the problem is that you're dealing with people who are -basically - savages. And while it's always a bad idea to "stoop to their level", I'm not sure what else there is to do.
I do NOT think you can EVER deal with terrorists. You have to kill them. They're like an extremely aggressive form of cancer. Radical treatment, or it WILL kill you!

I think the only possible caveat to that would be that you should also look at how your actions might inflame others to follow in the terrorists foot-steps. (One of my concerns with bombing a cemetary.)
Obviously, some will fall to the terrorists brain-washing propaganda. Our policy cannot be determined by giving in to terrorists, or potential terrorists.

Also, education would be a key issue in fighting such cancer. If they are smart enough to see through the terrorists propaganda, the next generation may be averted.

Nebraskaboy · 09-15-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

That's a good point - even from a gay guy!

If there's no "honored truce" for anything, then even ambulances and hospitals become targets. Churches or mosques - where innocent people are legitimately going about their own form of worship - are targets.

But here's what I think is so infuriating... The Fundy Terrorists are hiding in ambulances, stockpiling munitions in mosques, and disguising themselves as civilians. THEY have completely thrown out all conventional "courtesies" of war. And many civilians are not only letting it happen, they're helping them.

So what is the right thing to do?

The terrorist already attack our hospitals and ambulances in Iraq, they're a bunch of bloody savages, and cowards. They don't try to promote peace, they kill innocent civilians daily, they don't follow the rules of war, they're a fucking joke. This world would be so much better without these Islamic radicals. Fuck tehm, I hope their God pisses on them.

alias · 09-15-2006, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

I think the only possible caveat to that would be that you should also look at how your actions might inflame others to follow in the terrorists foot-steps. (One of my concerns with bombing a cemetary.)
Obviously, some will fall to the terrorists brain-washing propaganda. Our policy cannot be determined by giving in to terrorists, or potential terrorists.

Also, education would be a key issue in fighting such cancer. If they are smart enough to see through the terrorists propaganda, the next generation may be averted.

So then you agree that we cannot give in to them or negotiate with them. That means we kill them where we find them. Cemetaries, etc.

foundit66 · 09-15-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

So then you agree that we cannot give in to them or negotiate with them. That means we kill them where we find them. Cemetaries, etc.

1) I agree that we cannot give in to them.
2) The only "negotiation" would be either unconditional surrender, or them just stopping all terrorist actions.
3) No. That does not "mean" we kill them wherever we find them. There are other concerns in play beyond just killing whenever possible.

Lucidthots · 09-15-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

This has NOTHING to do with ethnicity and religious bigotry.

It has to do with MUSLIM TERRORISTS INTENTIONALLY TARGETING INNOCENT CIVILIANS.

American soldiers do NOT do that.

Yeah....Sean Shammity says so.....so it must be true.