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Old 09-26-2006, 07:52 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I hope you are victimized by crazed, violent, savage mooooooslims.
I hope you fall into a man hole and on your way down you snag your chin on something and snap your head back and break your fucking neck. Piece of shit.
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Old 09-30-2006, 07:17 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Interesting that you claim to be speaking for the world...


Here's a newsflash for you: The WORLD is beginning to intensely hate MUSLIMS.

It's happening more and more, because even though people like you are trying to assure us that all this savage violence is not Muslim-related, it's Muslims that are perpetrating it.
Well i personally happen to believe that majority of the world wants PEACE. And in asking for peace i AM speaking for the world.

The WORLD is intensely beginning to hate VIOLENCE and TERRORISM... again it happens to be a different thing from MUSLIMS.. maybe not in your mind.. but in reality for sure.

YES muslims are perpetrating violence in the name of islam... america is bombing civilians in the name of "freedom"... does that make "islam" or "freedom" wrong?? no it doesn't.. the WRONG done here is that of violence.

This violence is not related to ISLAM.. again there is a difference between the tenets of belief and their implementation. The fact that muslims committ terrorist activities is not caused by ISLAM... but by the circumstances surrounding that particular society.. Lik ei said Malaysia Indonesia and Turkey are well functioning moderate tolerant states with no terrorist history or culture.. but they are MUSLIM. Does that not lead one to believe that ISLAM is NOT the common thread between terrorist groups.

Does nobody know of the LTTE, or of the IRA or the Basque liberation Front???? Terrorism is a social product of the circumstances of the individual society.. not the result of a religion such as Islam.
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Old 09-30-2006, 11:08 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Unfortunately this administration is attempting to change the definition of the word terrorism for its own gain. In the true sense of its definition, almost every state including our own have engaged in it or sponsered it sometime in their histories. Yes, including the United States; from western expansion to racism to even the Second World War we have engaged in it. So as you can see, a "war on terrorism" is relative. It really has no substance as a "war" in its definition. I think calling it a war is just an excuse for the executive and federal government to consolidate power.

But, even in the light of the new definition, I find it interesting that the United States can still fall into the category of perpetuating it, sometimes carrying it out, and harboring known terrorists. I mostly speak of terrorists against certain South/Central American nations.
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Old 09-30-2006, 11:28 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Well i personally happen to believe that majority of the world wants PEACE. And in asking for peace i AM speaking for the world.

The WORLD is intensely beginning to hate VIOLENCE and TERRORISM... again it happens to be a different thing from MUSLIMS.. maybe not in your mind.. but in reality for sure.

YES muslims are perpetrating violence in the name of islam... america is bombing civilians in the name of "freedom"... does that make "islam" or "freedom" wrong?? no it doesn't.. the WRONG done here is that of violence.

This violence is not related to ISLAM.. again there is a difference between the tenets of belief and their implementation. The fact that muslims committ terrorist activities is not caused by ISLAM... but by the circumstances surrounding that particular society.. Lik ei said Malaysia Indonesia and Turkey are well functioning moderate tolerant states with no terrorist history or culture.. but they are MUSLIM. Does that not lead one to believe that ISLAM is NOT the common thread between terrorist groups.

Does nobody know of the LTTE, or of the IRA or the Basque liberation Front???? Terrorism is a social product of the circumstances of the individual society.. not the result of a religion such as Islam.
America is not bombing civilians. You are a liar. This is my problem with you. You claim you are against terrorism, but then you turn right around and blame the USA. Bombing civilians is not our objective. At times civilians get killed in a war, but the facts are it is the Islamic fascists who are the root cause of all the killing. When a terrorist group hides in a school and the school gets bombed, it is not the fault of the USA or Israel. It is the fault of the terrorists for hiding among civilians. The reason civilians are getting killed is because the muslim terrorists are cowards who hide behind women and children. Can you admit that or not?
Old 09-30-2006, 03:37 PM   #55 (permalink)
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America is not bombing civilians. You are a liar. This is my problem with you. You claim you are against terrorism, but then you turn right around and blame the USA. Bombing civilians is not our objective. At times civilians get killed in a war, but the facts are it is the Islamic fascists who are the root cause of all the killing. When a terrorist group hides in a school and the school gets bombed, it is not the fault of the USA or Israel. It is the fault of the terrorists for hiding among civilians. The reason civilians are getting killed is because the muslim terrorists are cowards who hide behind women and children. Can you admit that or not?
why is he a liar??
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Old 04-22-2007, 04:01 AM   #56 (permalink)
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don't you think we should first figure out what the defination of terrorism and terrorist is ??

terrorist did that and did this..
fighting terrorism..
terrorist attacks..


Terrorist

Military --- An individual who uses violence, terror, and intimidation to achieve a result.
Wikipedia --- One who engages in terrorism, a broad and controversial category of acts, usually involving the use of fear tactics against a population.

Terrorism

US Department of Defense --- the "calculated use of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or intimidate governments or societies in pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological."





so lets write our own defination for terrorist and terrorism and than figure our who fits on that list and who doesn't..


my defination for it..

Terrorism -- creating fear in minds/hearts of people in order to achieve their goal..
Terrorist -- any one who is creating fear in minds/hearts of people in order to achieve a goal..
According to Pres Idiot W Bush a terrorist is anyone that doesn't see it the American way. If that is the case then i am happy to be a terrorist.
Old 04-27-2007, 06:42 AM   #57 (permalink)
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America is not bombing civilians. You are a liar. This is my problem with you. You claim you are against terrorism, but then you turn right around and blame the USA. Bombing civilians is not our objective. At times civilians get killed in a war, but the facts are it is the Islamic fascists who are the root cause of all the killing. When a terrorist group hides in a school and the school gets bombed, it is not the fault of the USA or Israel. It is the fault of the terrorists for hiding among civilians. The reason civilians are getting killed is because the muslim terrorists are cowards who hide behind women and children. Can you admit that or not?
Afghan Civilians Killed - 3,485
Iraqi Civilians Killed - 720,461
9/11 Death Toll - 2,752

So if these guys are the cowards, then why do your troops kill so many civilians? And ofcourse the prision torture.

Let me guess, the bombs didnt drop where they were supposed to. I mean come on, throwing over 10 million bombs, some of them would go off target. Anyone know what a dazycutter does?
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