Originally Posted by onlyoneplanet

You're very right, we cannot be humans without error. Of course people make mistakes; giving a select group of men guns and authority is a mistake in my eyes -- and the mistakes that men with guns and authority make tend to be more serious, as well.

But in a country where racial, class, and religious tensions exist, where diversity is rarely respected and the majority has a huge superiority complex, you bet the officials are going to round up a police force. The businessmen and the soccermoms need to be protected from illegal immigrants and homeless people.

As a part of the group of people who make this country "great", i.e. tax-paying, middle-class citizens -- blissfully ignorant subjects of capitalism -- these people want to feel protected, because they want to hold on to all the money and expensive things they've accumulated in their years in the United States. The media; advertisements play a big roll in convincing Americans that their material posessions are important (see any insurance ad).

Yes, a police force is created to aid in the protection of developing societies, but around whom is this society being constructed? What values do they hold? I can garuntee you that these people are not homeless, they're not desperate immigrants, they're not anti-american sympathizers, they're not workin' stiffs trying to reboot the system; and it doesn't matter who you are or what you do, you're still expected to play by the rules, even if it means constant struggle or utter dissatisfaction.

Free speech becomes void when you're focussing it on exposing the greedy and corrupt. There's always a threat of the year, and it's never been Wal-Mart or Procter & Gamble or the Lumber Industry, but communism and terrorism and radical activists who want to take your microwave away from you or some FOX news bullshit..

Originally Posted by onlyoneplanet

No man. I think he is saying we need to look at the enemy within. It may be worse than any external source.

Yeah that pretty much sums it up...

What I'm saying is that the police only protect the citizens that are held in high regard, as if their lives are somewhat more meaningful since they're the major contributors to this dreadful system. "Protection and service to whom?" is a critical question.

I'm not saying we should contruct a society around the homeless and desperate immigrants, I'm saying we should re-evaluate this society for the sake of the less-fortunate.

I have a twisted world view in some people's eyes, that's exactly why I don't like cops.

I think autonomy can bring us further than any president could. Dedication to community and respect for diversity as opposed to dedication to "America" (whatever that is) and respect for authority.

Originally Posted by tadpole256

It's a cute ideal, but anarchy will never work, not so long as humans are involved. It goes too much against our nature. Looks great on paper and in fairy tales though.

Originally Posted by onthefence

I heard on the radio they guy came out of a house that was under Surveillance for suspected terrorism. He was wearing a big heavy overcoat on a hot day, jumped the turnstile was told to stop by the police numerous times to stop. The police made the call that he was a suicide bomber jumped him and put 5 bullets in his brain.