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Old 11-13-2006, 09:50 AM   #11 (permalink)
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You're going to claim that the Senate Intelligence Committee knew nothing of this?

Yeah, that's a good one!
Once again you have shown your inablility to actual read any links I post and then just run your mouth. That's right, the Senate Intell committee was not show the CIA report.
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Old 11-13-2006, 02:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Why didn't Clinton get Bin Laden when he had numerous chances? I still heaven't heard you explain that one. I think you should give it a rest.
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Why didn't Clinton get Bin Laden when he had numerous chances? I still heaven't heard you explain that one. I think you should give it a rest.
Your the one who has been claiming Bush never lied. Now that I show some links that are solid evidence that he did, you simply want me to give it a rest?
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Old 11-13-2006, 03:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I still do not believe he lied. If he lied, why isn't the democrat-controlled congress going to impeach him. The only excuse you had before was because the dems didn't control congress. Now you do. What are impeachment procedings going to begin? The only links you have provided are from CBS news. Does Dan Rather ring a bell? CBS has an agenda and it's not to report the news.

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Old 11-13-2006, 06:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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So what? CNN and USA Today don't mean squat. They have about as much authority on the truth as the New York Times, and we all know they will lie and support anyone who disagrees with the administration. The old media is a democrat mouthpiece. Nothing new here.
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So what? CNN and USA Today don't mean squat. They have about as much authority on the truth as the New York Times, and we all know they will lie and support anyone who disagrees with the administration. The old media is a democrat mouthpiece. Nothing new here.
The European Head of the CIA made these statements about Bush's fore-knowledge of how there was no Al Quada ties and no WMD program going on. Who quoted him makes no difference. He lied.
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I don't care what the European head and the head of the CIA said, it's all politics. If he lied, then impeach him. I am really interested to see the evidence and how it stands up to scrutiny.
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Tony Blair, who narrowly defeated a recent parliamentary attempt to call an inquiry into the Iraq war, is facing a new threat from Washington, where victorious Democrats are expected to call British witnesses as they launch congressional investigations into the war.

"Now we are the majority party and we can hold hearings," said a senior member of the staff of John Conyers, who in January will become chair of the House Judiciary Committee. "We can hold any number of hearings."

Democratic Senators are also expected to seek hearings aimed at throwing light on how Downing Street and the White House co-ordinated efforts to claim that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction. All the claims that led to war, from allegations that Saddam was reconstituting a nuclear weapons programme to his alleged links with al-Qa'ida, could come under examination. Unlike their counterparts in Britain, congressional committees have the crucial power to subpoena witnesses and documents.

Mr Conyers's staff have long been investigating how false information was presented by the Bush administration to persuade the public of the "significant and growing" threat posed by Saddam. Their inquiries were partly triggered by the leaking of the Downing Street memos, which revealed the belief of the British government that Mr Bush had decided on war as early as the spring of 2002.

When Mr Conyers published his findings last year, he said: "We have found that there is substantial evidence the President, the Vice-President and other high-ranking members of the Bush administration misled Congress and the American people regarding the decision to go to war in Iraq, misstated and manipulated intelligence information regarding the justification for such war, countenanced torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment in Iraq, and permitted inappropriate retaliation against critics of their administration."
Read the rest of The Independent's article (a British online newspaper):
Independent Online Edition > UK Politics

It should be an interesting new year.
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When are the impeachment proceedings to begin?
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