tyreay

So your saying now that your not sure if the CIA Chief lied or if the President lied? Please clarify this for me. Just a few posts ago it was part of your Dan Rather agenda, Liberal media spin, conspiracy theory about how Bush never lied.

I for one don't want to see the President impeached. I think it would be bad for the country and every word spent bitching about stupid party based drama issues(and there is a long long list), are words wasted that could have been used to fix the mess in Iraq. I hope, with all my soul, that true bi-partisanship can reach a new high and our country will start making the right choices concerning our foriegn affairs. With the evidence of all the crap we have pulled we look bad in the collective eyes of the world. We need to start acting like what we are suppose to stand for.

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alias

The top general in Iraq says different. What you want is to put politicians in charge of this fight. It was the democrats who mucked up Viet Nam and they are about to do the same thing here. If you really want people in Iraq to hate us, just pull out and let them fall into terrorist control because that is what would happen. All of the work we have done would be for nothing.

tyreay

And exactly what is it the top generals are saying? Please explain this claim.
And while we are comparing Vietnam to Iraq, our country was not equipped to deal with Guerrilla warfare just like it is not doing such a great job dealing with terrorist type warfare.

I have always said, that we need to fix the fuck ups we caused in Iraq before pulling out. I don't doubt there are some terrorist there now. They are there because we are there, not because they were there to start with.
You never have once addressed us spreading uranium all over Iraq after all the times I have mentioned this. I think our obligation to the Iraqi people goes far beyond eradication of terrorism. Your reasons for staying are self-preservative. You have, more than once, expressed a true hatred for Islamics. Your happy that the dirty bombs we used will be killing and hurting these people for decades to come, aren't you? Tell me how we were right to use dirty bombs to take over a country we 'thought' had a nuclear weapons program. Dirty bombs have been deemed weapons of mass destruction. We used them everywhere. Just admit we screwed up or admit your approval of the use of these weapons. The people of Iraq will hate us no matter how well we get thier government running, and get rid of Al Quada, if we leave all this radioactive waste everywhere, so your point is pointless.
Bush thought he could get his puppet government elected and failed. Now, because of this, there is a civil war going on. None of the politicians want to admit this. We are stuck in the middle of it(and probably started it) because of all the choices our President made to start with.
I have never said we should just pull out of Iraq. I have said we should admit we were wrong to use dirty bombs and then actually clean it up. Has it occured to you that if we actually help these people instead of just claiming we are helping them, that the Iraqis may then actually help us do away with the terrorists?
Politicians are already in control of the war in Iraq. Our polititcians, not thiers.

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Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour

There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville

hevusa

Not at all true

Report: Bush Had More Prewar Intelligence Than Congress

"A congressional report made public yesterday concluded that President Bush and his inner circle had access to more intelligence and reviewed more sensitive material than what was shared with Congress when it gave Bush the authority to wage war against Iraq."

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Jefferson

More GREAT reporting from the Washington ComPost, written by hard-core leftist Dafna Linzer!

Wow!


I think I'm going to go read up on how bad racism is in America - using Jesse Jackson as my source!

hevusa

"A congressional report made public yesterday concluded that President Bush and his inner circle had access to more intelligence and reviewed more sensitive material than what was shared with Congress when it gave Bush the authority to wage war against Iraq."

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"There is no such thing as laziness. Laziness is only lack of incentive." Norman Reider, MD

Morality is not contingent on religion to exist. Therefore religion only detracts from the purity of morality.

tyreay

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Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour

There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville

jaaaman

In case you didn't notice Ty, Alias has been banned.

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Jefferson

Yeah, he insulted the great god Hevusa one too many times.

"No conservative shall insult or question a liberal for anything, for any reason, under any conditions."

jaaaman

Yeah... an unwritten 'rule of conduct'. Afterall, liberals are right about everything.

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"I am not ashamed of the Gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes." Romans 1:16