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Old 11-17-2006, 04:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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So says the guy who talks about solving problems by getting a bunch of his friends to help beat up on gay guy.
Alias, you don't know squat about maturity.
Where did I say I'd get a bunch of my friends to beat up on a gay guy? I never said that. Are you sniffing paint thinner again?
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Old 11-17-2006, 05:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Where did I say I'd get a bunch of my friends to beat up on a gay guy? I never said that. Are you sniffing paint thinner again?
Oh. That's right.
You were too cowardly to admit what you were really talking about, weren't you. You can't tell any of the "gay" people you know what you think about gays, because you haven't the cajones for one-on-one.
And when I talked about simply coming up to your neck of the woods to have a drink at the local bar and enjoy myself, you freaked out and talked about how I better not or I would be in for trouble...

THIS is what alias said: "We'd love to party on your head for a few minutes."

Are you going to lie AGAIN and pretend that wasn't a threat of violence???
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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You took that as a threat? Funny. I was talking about partying and you interpret that as a violent threat. You really are a kook.

See!! I can play mind games just as well as you.
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Old 11-17-2006, 10:28 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You took that as a threat? Funny. I was talking about partying and you interpret that as a violent threat. You really are a kook.
See!! I can play mind games just as well as you.
No. I'm not playing any "mind games".
And you're a really pathetic liar.

Go ahead. Keep destroying your credibility, if you even had any left.
Tell me again how this isn't a threat of violence, from you about how you and your friends are going to assault me...
alias: "We'd love to party on your head for a few minutes."
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:57 AM   #25 (permalink)
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No. I'm not playing any "mind games".
And you're a really pathetic liar.

Go ahead. Keep destroying your credibility, if you even had any left.
Tell me again how this isn't a threat of violence, from you about how you and your friends are going to assault me...
alias: "We'd love to party on your head for a few minutes."
When it comes to you buddy, credibility has nothing to do with it. You're a joke. I could care less what you think about my "credibility". You're nothing but an amusement.
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Where did I say I'd get a bunch of my friends to beat up on a gay guy? I never said that. Are you sniffing paint thinner again?

Alias said: "We'd pin your ass to the wall and use you as a dart board."

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Alias said: "We'd pin your ass to the wall and use you as a dart board."

http://www.defendingthetruth.com/vid...html#post60523
You're right Hevusa. I am sorry for eveything I say. I am just a mean ole nasty conservative American who is under the mistaken assumption that I still have free speech in this country. I will keep trying to remember that vastly intelligent liberals such as yourself are far superior to me and have the right to tell me what to say, read, and speak. I apologize to your majesty.

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Old 11-23-2006, 01:50 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Personally, I think that the School Board of San Francisco should be allowed to do whatever they think is in the best interest of the school children. If they determine that means suspending the Junior ROTC program than that is their right. I have no problems with the School Board acting in this manner.

However, keep in mind, that the No Child Left Behind Act, which is federal law and thus supercedes state or local law, deems that any school district which denies equal access by the Military will be denied federal funding. The San Francisco School Board has determined that it will not allow equal access, in accordance, the they should face the result of their actions. They do not want ROTC or military recruiters that is their right, and it is the Federal Government's right to deny funding.

As far as the students are concerned, the point of the matter is that there are students who wish to participate in this program, what has happened to their right of free association as guaranteed by the Constitution??? The San Francisco School Board by banning Junior ROTC is denying these students of that right.

Ultimately the military is not a social experiment. Rules and regulations have been developed to maintain order and discipline. Those who volunteer to serve often waive certain rights to serve. They accept orders without question unless those orders are illegal. By volunteering to serve they immediately give the Government control of their lives for a minimum of eight years, often as 4 years active service and 4 years inactive service as a member of the Ready Reserve. They accept and follow the orders of those appointed above them. It is not a right to serve in the military but a privilege. There are many rules and regulations that govern the lives of the individual soldiers to ensure unit cohesion and Espirit de Corps, including the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy. That is the military's right to ensure that it can perform its mission. I will not sit by and say that there have not been homosexuals that have served honorably and heroically in the military, cause I know that there have been. However, the military has seen fit to ban this type of activity to preserve the cohesion of the force. Something known as the greater good, men and women who join and who are often required to share close living spaces with others should not have to worry about the sexual orientation of their squad mates. Having been in the infantry I have seen and done many things that others would find repulsive, however, at the time they were necessary to accomplish the mission.

While it is in the right of the School Board to act as they have, unfortunately they have failed to grasp the bigger picture. ROTC allows students to learn about the military and its life style, a life style that is not suited to every individual. With a voluntary force, our students should know what they are getting themselves into. Furthermore, the ROTC program offers many great scholarships and other methods for students to attend college, including programs that require matching years of service for tuition assistance. Tell me is it not in the best interest of the students for them to find ways to afford and achieve college educations??? Unless the San Francisco School Board is going to pick up the slack, they have done a great disservice to the children.

However, the decision has been made, and know it should be accepted with all the consequence of the decision. If the people of San Francisco are not happy with the decision it is within their power to elect to individuals who will enact their will. ANd if this is the will of the citizens, then they should be allowed to have it, with all of its ramifications.

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Old 11-24-2006, 10:50 AM   #29 (permalink)
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This clearly is not the will of the people but the will of a few select individual liberals who are anti-military and want their cake and eat it too. Nothing new really. Since when did liberals do what the people wanted.

For example, the dems ran middle of the road candidates and won an election this year. So who is in charge in congress? A liberal Frisco democrat whose first 2 acts are to appoint crooks after running a campaign against corruption. They can't help themselves. They have to lie to the American people about who they are to win and then prove exactly who they are. Corrupt elitist socialists.
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Old 11-24-2006, 02:32 PM   #30 (permalink)
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