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| Citizen ![]() Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8
| Throwback Post: Bush Sr. killed John F. Kennedy... Legacy of Suspicion Decades After, Few Accept the Official Explanation for JFK Assassination Analysis By Gary Langer ABCNEWS.com Nov. 16— Forty years later, suspicions of a conspiracy endure: Seven in 10 Americans think the assassination of John F. Kennedy was the result of a plot, not the act of a lone killer — and a bare majority thinks that plot included a second shooter on Dealey Plaza. ABCNEWS has completed a poll in conjunction with a two-hour ABCNEWS special, Peter Jennings Reporting: The Kennedy Assassination — Beyond Conspiracy, airing 9-11 p.m. (EST) Thursday, Nov. 20. The program includes a computer-generated reconstruction of the shooting that confirms that Oswald was the lone gunman. And it finds no persuasive evidence of a conspiracy to kill the president. Just 32 percent accept the Warren Commission's 1964 finding that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone when he shot Kennedy as his motorcade passed through downtown Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. Fifty-one percent think there was a second gunman, and seven percent go so far as to think Oswald wasn't involved at all. Sixty-eight percent of Americans also think there was "an official cover-up" to hide the truth about the assassination from the public. And about as many, 65 percent, think that "important unanswered questions" remain, four decades after Kennedy's death. Kennedy Assasination, 40 Years Later Time - Suspect a Plot - Think it Was One Man Sep. 66 46% 34 Feb. 67 44 35 Sep. 67 60 24 Nov. 83 80 13 Dec. 91 73 11 Nov. 03 70 22 Belief in a broader plot peaked at 80 percent in a 1983 ABCNEWS poll; it's since eased a bit, to today's 70 percent. Similarly, the number of people who think there was an official cover-up has moved back from its peak, 81 percent in 1993, to 68 percent now. SOURCE - http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/U...ll_031116.html (...) JFK II: The Bush Connection A thorough, documented, criminal indictment of George Herbert Walker Bush, establishing beyond a reasonable doubt his guilt as a supervisor in the conspiracy to assassinate John F. Kennedy. This is the best documentary about the murder of JFK that I've ever seen. This is above and beyond anything you've ever seen on the subject. The evidence is here and it is conclusive. View Video Here SOURCE - http://jackblood.netfirms.com/home/multimedia.html ORIGINAL MOVIE SITE - http://www.jfkii.com/ (...) Skepilogue: If there is a conspiracy here, remember, they're smarter than you... Criminal Cast of CrimeBush Characters: Prescott Bush - Grandfather (Pressy) George Bush Sr. - former president (Poppy) George Bush Jr. - current president (Dubya) IT'S COMPLICATED... KEY POINTS: and if none of this hodgepodge works for you - just watch it... 1. Pressy was arrested by J. Edgar Hoover in 1942 as CEO of Union Bank for trading with the Nazi's... and still didn't stop until 1951. He was a tire-salesman who got his first investment job with his father-in-law, Averill Harriman, and they both did regular business with the first head of the CIA, Allen Dulles, who in turn had helped them hide funding of Hitler's rise to power. 2. Pressy got Poppy his first job after a stint in the army and at Yale with the CIA's Allen Dulles, and Poppy stayed low-key at the CIA for a while. He's just finished a stint as a kid in the Skull and Bones, and was now looking to become a man. 3. Poppy started his first business, Zapata Oil, off the coast of Cuba, where the CIA was planning the "Bay of Pigs" invasion (CIA Code Name: "Operation Zapata") with anti-Castro guerillas. Poppy and E. Howard Hunt (who later admitted a CIA conspiracy in extorting a million dollars in hush-money out of Nixon) were working together in Cuba. 4. Pressy Bush funded young Richard Nixon for Congress and all the way up to his Presidential runs, along with Dulles and Harriman, rallying GOP and corporate support. 5. JFK won the Presidency in 1960. The CIA and their friends were pissed, but they ran the Bay of Pigs invasion anyway without his permission hoping he would be forced to commit U.S. troops. He didn't, the small force was captured, and JFK fired the top 3 guys in the CIA while publicly taking full responsibility. 6. After they screwed around with Cuba and Russia again during the Cuban Missile Crisis, JFK flipped, and asked J. Edgar Hoover to use the FBI to find and shut down all the secret CIA anti-Castro training centers. Lee Harvey Oswald was his best asset, and a double-agent for the CIA and FBI; he had announced he was a traitor when he went to Russia, then later came back and worked with both. Oswald lead the FBI to a few CIA camps before he was figured out and later framed. 7. JFK was assasinated on November 22, 1963. Poppy, Hunt, and Nixon all gave inconsistent reports where they were when they heard he got shot each time they were interviewed for several years; witnesses were killed; and various cover-ups ensued. 8. Later at a 1975 Senate re-investigation into the case, CIA Director William Colby starts talking, saying among other things: "Bush and Hunt were there, they were in charge of the shooters... maybe I'm saying too much." He was fired by President Gerald Ford and replaced with George H.W. (Poppy!) Bush as Head of the CIA. Even though Poppy said he had no experience, he quickly refused the agency's cooperation and killed the re-investigation. 9. In response to a CIA "in-your-face!" request for the FBI to investigate what happened, Hoover responded to the threat by writing a memo to then CIA Director Dulles that innocently confirms the involvement of George H.W. Bush in CIA activities at the time. Poppy, when publicly campaigning in the 1970's, claims he hadn't done anything with the CIA before becoming CIA Director in 1976. 10. What about Dubya? Well... rumour was JFK Jr. was looking into who killed his Dad with more interest... he was a handsome young member of an American Dynasty settling down after his playboy-years and considering a political career... Dubya had to prove his loyalty to the Skull and Bones just like Poppy did... What about George W. Bush? Was he there? Kennedy’s plane went into the sea at 10:00 on Friday night, July 16, 1999. Bush was involved in a heated campaign, which he was losing in New Hampshire. He was constantly in public and constantly surrounded by reporters, so it’s easy to figure out where he was. Right? Wrong! According to the Omaha World Herald (7/17/99), on July 16th Bush was flipping pancakes Friday morning in Des Moines, but he boarded a bus and disappeared for the entire weekend. On Saturday, July 18th, reporters looking for a comment from Bush confronted a fumbling spokesperson who was unable to say when Bush would be available for comment. (Newsday, 7/19/99, A19) Bush finally called a press conference on Monday, to offer condolences. Do you think this evidence is too weak to accuse Bush of murder? As George would say, “We got more than enough here to hang a feller in Texas.” George, you’re our feller. SOURCE - http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...lled_jfkjr.htm Peace, (NOW!!!) BK _________________ ... Black Krishna Brand Philosophy - blackkrishna.blogspot.com/ Music - www.soundclick.com/bands/0/blackkrishna.htm ... | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.) Gender: ![]() Posts: 7,881 Country: ![]()
| Re: Throwback Post: Bush Sr. killed John F. Kennedy... Went to that website. Really informative video. Thanks for sharing. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: May 2005 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 1,214
| How can you believe that?? I cant believe a huge source of news like ABC News made this up!!! -- San Fernando Valley's where it's at | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| I'm sure those who have common sense do not believe this. | |
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| Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.) Gender: ![]() Posts: 7,881 Country: ![]()
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Too bad you guys are anti-conspiracy nuts. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Citizen ![]() Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8
| Uncommon intelligence is better... i mean really - what do you want? do you want to know the truth or share the lie? the quality of alternative information is excellent - they have to try harder to sell you against CNN etc., and yet people have been trained like dogs to bark in fear at anything that questions what they know. this is an extreme charge to be sure, and it's not ABC - read the post. but crazier stuff has happened throughout history - which they no longer teach us on purpose just so we'll act the way doubters do: "i ain't heard it so it can't be true!" this is destroying the concept of "trust" throughout America, as people are getting suspicious of any "honest" intent outside of their bias or the "official" party line. and yet, government officials have been proven dishonest for thousands of years: dismissing any criticism of them is just historically stupid. howard zinn wrote a book called "the people's history of the united states", and it's sold one-million copies, a staggering number for any book not starring harry potter. this shows how hungry people are for alternatives to the accepted truth, and frankly here's something for ya: TO MAKE A CHARGE THIS BALLSY YOU'D BETTER HAVE THE EVIDENCE: NO ONE WILL EVER BELIEVE YOU OR PASS IT ON IF IT'S CRAP, AND IT WOULD BE A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME. i wouldn't share something this crazy if it wasn't good - why would i put myself on the line and just get flamed? everyone who watches it likes it so far even as entertainment - no complaints... if i found: "Secret Video - Dubya saves cat from tree in 1986!" then i could have that garbage fly around the web in two seconds, but if it's something this crazy it'd better be well-researched. hevusa, respect, gladja liked the site, here's another one that includes an ABC News special on MK Ultra - the CIA's mind control program... http://www.heartbone.com/various/RedPillVideos.html#D41 and yes... this time that is really ABC News. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Congressional Representative ![]() Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Needham, MA Posts: 2,335
| That is really interesting stuff. I'm still debating with myself over what I really believe. But it don't take much to get me by So just booze me up and get me high Ween | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: May 2005 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 1,214
| hahaha, its too bad any of us actually felt the urge to rebuttle this article. -- San Fernando Valley's where it's at | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Congressional Representative ![]() Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Needham, MA Posts: 2,335
| Well, for me this is just another theory because I have read and watched a lot of conspiracy theories on this assasination. As I stand now, I believe it was Oswald acting alone. I used to think there was a conspiracy involving some level of the government, but there were two programs I watched about a year ago that provided overwhelming evidence for Oswald acting alone. But it don't take much to get me by So just booze me up and get me high Ween | |||||||||||||||||||||
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