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Old 08-19-2005, 07:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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THE HANKY-PANKY AROUND THE RECOVERING OF WTC-HARD DRIVES
Moments before the World Trade Towers collapsed, $100 million in credit card transactions were sent through the computers inside the doomed buildings, transactions that should have vanished when the buildings collapsed.

But a German company was able to recover data from the hard drives pointing to WHO, armed with advance knowledge, executed this monstrous fraud. But the company doing the data recovery was bought out, the project halted, while the FBI as usual does not look where it is told not to look.

"PIRMASENS, Germany (Reuters) - German computer experts are
working round the clock to unlock the truth behind an unexplained
surge in financial transactions made just before two hijacked planes
crashed into New York's World Trade Center on September 11.

Were criminals responsible for the sharp rise in credit card
transactions that moved through some computer systems at the
WTC shortly before the planes hit the twin towers?

Or was it coincidence that unusually large sums of money, perhaps
more than $100 million, were rushed through the computers as the
disaster unfolded?

A world leader in retrieving data, German-based firm Convar is
trying to answer those questions and help credit card companies,
telecommunications firms and accountants in New York recover their
records from computer hard drives that have been partially
damaged by fire, water or fine dust..."


The CONVAR data salvage has made it completely clear that more than $100 million in insider credit card transactions took place in the hours and minutes before the twin towers collapsed. The mainframe computers in the towers processed these transactions; and the credit card data would have been lost forever had it not been for the successful data reconstruction of the CONVAR specialists.

A German company, CONVAR of Pirmasens near the French border, was given more than 400 computer hard drives from the wreckage of the World Trade Center. These are extremely sensitive computer components that went through the collapse of the World Trade Center. Using blue laser technology, CONVAR succeeded in reconstructing all the data from the computer debris. This includes diverse financial data and telecommunication protocols up to a few seconds before the collapse of each tower. (Source: e-mail from CONVAR Germany on October 16, 2003.) The U.S. government’s blatant lie about the allegedly missing black boxes is outright made ludicrous by this fact.

The reconstructed data was given by CONVAR to the FBI. The FBI was held by law to investigate, based on the reconstructed data, who placed the inside transactions.

The FBI is doing no such thing.


GFP would like to inform, that in June 2002, Ontrack/Convar was aquired by Kroll Inc. (Kroll O'gara Eisenhardt), which has strong with the US Government. One of their former employees, Jerome Hauer, organised a security job for ex-FBI anti-terror chief John O'Neill in the Twin Towers, where he died on Sep11th.

Kroll O’ Gara Eisenhardt is one of the oldest security companies in the United States and, some say, responsible for every U.S. President since the end of WW2. What does an upstanding, powerful company like Kroll do in its spare time? Why it trains local forces in Saudi Arabia, of course!

One partner of Kroll, Cable & Wireless provides training in Counter-Terrorism and Urban Warfare in Saudi Arabia. In August 2001, former Kroll employee, Jerome Hauer, arranged a security job in the Twin Towers for FBI Agent John O’Neill. At the time, O’Neill had been investigating ENRON’s business deals with the Taliban and was subsequently pulled from that investigation. Neither Kroll nor Hauer was asked to testify about this coincidence.
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow that's crazy. Who do you think it was?
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Wow that's crazy. Who do you think it was?
It seems to me that it would have to be either someone who new what was going to happen, or someone with some amazing timing and an excellent understanding of the financial data infrastructure of the WTC.

Equally troubling though is the fact that the Government claims that the black boxes from the aircraft were destroyed beyond usefulness. Here, we have irrefutable evidence that standard old PC Hard Drives survived well enough to have data recovered fomr them, but black boxes designed to be nigh indestructible were destroyed beyond the point of usefulness?

I don't think so.
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Wow that's crazy. Who do you think it was?
It seems to me that it would have to be either someone who new what was going to happen, or someone with some amazing timing and an excellent understanding of the financial data infrastructure of the WTC.

Equally troubling though is the fact that the Government claims that the black boxes from the aircraft were destroyed beyond usefulness. Here, we have irrefutable evidence that standard old PC Hard Drives survived well enough to have data recovered fomr them, but black boxes designed to be nigh indestructible were destroyed beyond the point of usefulness?

I don't think so.


And no fighter planes in the skies after a boeing hits a skyscraper in NYC! Yeah right.
WTC 7 coming down with demolitions hours after the twin towers collapse??
Did the PA plane really just crash?

All the while Bush at a school reading to children?
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And no fighter planes in the skies after a boeing hits a skyscraper in NYC! Yeah right.
WTC 7 coming down with demolitions hours after the twin towers collapse??
Did the PA plane really just crash?

All the while Bush at a school reading to children?
I never heard that. I heard two fighters were dispatched here in Massachusetts as the second plane was heading towards the second tower. That's interesting about the plane in PA although I would have thought the someone would know if it got shot out of the sky. Supposedly people on the plane took control and crashed it. Neil Young wrote a song about it...has to be true right?
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And no fighter planes in the skies after a boeing hits a skyscraper in NYC! Yeah right.
WTC 7 coming down with demolitions hours after the twin towers collapse??
Did the PA plane really just crash?

All the while Bush at a school reading to children?
I never heard that. I heard two fighters were dispatched here in Massachusetts as the second plane was heading towards the second tower. That's interesting about the plane in PA although I would have thought the someone would know if it got shot out of the sky. Supposedly people on the plane took control and crashed it. Neil Young wrote a song about it...has to be true right?
How could anything sung about by Neil Young be false?
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Old 08-21-2005, 03:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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How could anything sung about by Neil Young be false?

I saw Neil Young live a few years back. He is the man.
He gave a shout out to Bush then bent over and grabbed his ass.
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How could anything sung about by Neil Young be false?

I saw Neil Young live a few years back. He is the man.
He gave a shout out to Bush then bent over and grabbed his ass.
That's awesome. I love 'Keep on Rockin in the Free World'
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Neil Young is the man.

I know I said I love you
I know you know it's true
I've got to put the phone down
And do what we got to do
One's standing in the aisleway
Two more at the door
We've got to get inside there
Before they kill some more

Time is runnin' out
Let's roll
Time is runnin' out
Let's roll

No time for indecision
We got to make a move
I hope that we're forgiven
For what we got to do
How this all got started
I'll never understand
Hope someone can fly this thing
And get us back to land

Time is runnin' out
Let's roll
Time is runnin' out
Let's roll

No one has the answer
But one thing is true
You got to turn on evil
When it's comin' after you
You got to face it down
And when it tries to hide
You got to go in after it
And never be denied
Time is runnin' out
Let's roll

Let's roll for freedom
Let's roll for love
Going after Satan on the wings of a dove
Let's roll for justice
Let's roll for truth
Let's not let our children grow up fearful in their youth
Time is runnin' out
Let's roll

Time is runnin' out
Let's roll
Time is runnin' out
Let's roll
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Neil Young is the man.

I know I said I love you
I know you know it's true
I've got to put the phone down
And do what we got to do
One's standing in the aisleway
Two more at the door
We've got to get inside there
Before they kill some more

Time is runnin' out
Let's roll
Time is runnin' out
Let's roll

No time for indecision
We got to make a move
I hope that we're forgiven
For what we got to do
How this all got started
I'll never understand
Hope someone can fly this thing
And get us back to land

Time is runnin' out
Let's roll
Time is runnin' out
Let's roll

No one has the answer
But one thing is true
You got to turn on evil
When it's comin' after you
You got to face it down
And when it tries to hide
You got to go in after it
And never be denied
Time is runnin' out
Let's roll

Let's roll for freedom
Let's roll for love
Going after Satan on the wings of a dove
Let's roll for justice
Let's roll for truth
Let's not let our children grow up fearful in their youth
Time is runnin' out
Let's roll

Time is runnin' out
Let's roll
Time is runnin' out
Let's roll
What is the name of that song?
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