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Old 02-10-2007, 08:43 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Wow all that and nothing to say.
I guess it's not cool to defend your country now a days,nor to defend your race. but that ok. I will be the American loving WHITE guy, and y'all can still play the anti-american game,,,wow isn't that what america is all about..
See what I mean about A1st being a racist? Whites are the majority in this country not only in population but in political and economic power. Thinking that we're somehow oppressed is damn close to a conspiracy theory.
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Old 02-10-2007, 08:47 AM   #62 (permalink)
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I dunno dude.. It seems that the term "liberal" is flung around pretty often, but speaking as an outsider i don't really know what a damn "liberal" actually is.

From the way it is being used by A-1 and Jeff it seems that anybody who doesn't agree with them is invariably a "liberal".. That's a bit vague no?

How about coming up with a factual explanation of what these "liberals" are so i can decide whether or not i am one. ( if all it takes to be a liberal is to disagree with either one of you , well then i'm probably the liberalest liberal.. But of course that desription will only denote what i am compared to you, and give NO indication of what my opinions actually are)
Well lets see...some definitions according to the dictionary...

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"lib·er·al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl]
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.
8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.

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a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded."
As if to connotate being opposed to it's counterpart, conservative, which is an ideology restricted by orthodoxy, bigotry, and opposed to progressive change?
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Old 02-10-2007, 05:18 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Oh well i suppose we should let A 1 romp around a little bit. He needs to vent a lot of anger.

You see there are two ways to deal with life. One is to accept one's rights and duties and try to figure what one SELF can do and get along with it without anger and bitterness. A-1 has chosen the other. That particular method transfers all blame to other party/parties which must be DESTROYED and/or SUBDUED.

I'm sorry A1 because i believe some really crappy and unfair things have happened in your life.. But anger, blame and destruction will solve nothing.

The purpose of accountability is not PUNISHMENT, but rather KNOWLEDGE. But it is not possible to gain knowledge as long as you keep focusing on "punishing those responsible".

Try living without prejudice, fear and anger towards those you think do you wrong. It makes you more effective in your life.
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Old 02-11-2007, 07:36 AM   #64 (permalink)
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See what I mean about A1st being a racist? Whites are the majority in this country not only in population but in political and economic power. Thinking that we're somehow oppressed is damn close to a conspiracy theory.
Betty , I choose the white race, well because I am "WHITE". and my children are (here that dirty word you don't like) "white".
what would you call a person that hates his own country and his own race....clue...a "liberal"..you can see one in your mirror...

hey would I be a better person if hated my own race and country....NO!
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Oh well i suppose we should let A 1 romp around a little bit. He needs to vent a lot of anger.

You see there are two ways to deal with life. One is to accept one's rights and duties and try to figure what one SELF can do and get along with it without anger and bitterness. A-1 has chosen the other. That particular method transfers all blame to other party/parties which must be DESTROYED and/or SUBDUED.

I'm sorry A1 because i believe some really crappy and unfair things have happened in your life.. But anger, blame and destruction will solve nothing.

The purpose of accountability is not PUNISHMENT, but rather KNOWLEDGE. But it is not possible to gain knowledge as long as you keep focusing on "punishing those responsible".

Try living without prejudice, fear and anger towards those you think do you wrong. It makes you more effective in your life.
Great little song there big man..
Like I said in another post.."IT MUST BE UNCOOL TO DEFEND YOUR RACE AND COUNTRY.."
Now here something you can think about.....I have defended the white"s in the military(without dishonoring the other races) Yet You liberals keep calling me a racist..And i have made statements like"only Americans should be able to live in America"". guess what...you liberals still called me a racist..wow.Now here's some advice for you,(tell all you friends)try having a little honor and pride in your country, and stop attacking Americans that defend America.
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There's a difference between self-hate and self-reflection. Obviously, however, that difference doesn't exist in your black-and-white-only vocabulary.

I don't hate myself because I'm white. I have humility, in which I recognize the vicious past and culture of my race. The least you could do to make amends is help sear this past into the collective conscious of this nation's history. But I guess criticizing such actions would be 'racist' to the white race, and would be treason to our nation.
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:23 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Betty , I choose the white race, well because I am "WHITE". and my children are (here that dirty word you don't like) "white".
what would you call a person that hates his own country and his own race....clue...a "liberal"..you can see one in your mirror...

hey would I be a better person if hated my own race and country....NO!
Right now I see nothing refuting my argument. Just a bunch of pointless name-calling. If you truly disagreed you'd tell me why you think whites are not only opressed, but self-loathing.
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There's a difference between self-hate and self-reflection. Obviously, however, that difference doesn't exist in your black-and-white-only vocabulary.
There's also a difference between defending and pardoning America. Just because yur proud of this country doesn't mean it's perfect. Are you ready, A1, to admit that this country, despite being powerful, mostly free, and financialy secure, is controlled by big money families and de facto royalty, or that the government has been in the pockets if massive corporations for years?

This is worse with the military. Just because our armed forces are fighting honorably does not mean they are in an honorable fight. To connect the two and declare them one in the same is presumptuous and wrong, and to say anyone is "unpatriotic" for expressing this viewpoint is even worse.
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Right now I see nothing refuting my argument. Just a bunch of pointless name-calling. If you truly disagreed you'd tell me why you think whites are not only opressed, but self-loathing.
Well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black, hell young man you are one of the worst about name calling.
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There's also a difference between defending and pardoning America. Just because yur proud of this country doesn't mean it's perfect. Are you ready, A1, to admit that this country, despite being powerful, mostly free, and financialy secure, is controlled by big money families and de facto royalty, or that the government has been in the pockets if massive corporations for years?

This is worse with the military. Just because our armed forces are fighting honorably does not mean they are in an honorable fight. To connect the two and declare them one in the same is presumptuous and wrong, and to say anyone is "unpatriotic" for expressing this viewpoint is even worse.
Oh i will admit that this goverment and the money bags behind them, sucks and they suck real bad.But too out military down will not help make it any better.
You have still fail to bring that there are many non-white racist, you have fail to bring up the rest of the countries that are far worst than the USA. is this how you and your buddies honor your country andthe military the defend her...
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