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Old 02-13-2007, 05:53 AM   #81 (permalink)
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"Standing up for his own race"? You realize that causes sources of contention between races? That very phrase connotates opposition to other races. I like how you say blatantly racist things and then play it off like you're really not, or at least border-line.

And you're trying to play it off like it's ancient history. It's not! Racism was blatantly in the mainstream and in the law just forty years ago. Some of our members are old enough to have taken place in this, including you. This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're in denial. And it's still very much still alive today, just out of the law and the mainstream.

Don't "stand up for your race". Stand up for humanity, and equality. Hence, all races.
see that why liberals suck,it's not enough that i say all races are the same,it not eoungh that i don't put blacks down, no matter what i say, i will still be an racist in the eyes of braindead liberal.. have you ever heard of this"""YOU HAVE TO LOVE YOURSELF BEFORE YOU CAN LOVE ANYONE ELSE"..I love my race(if even we have braindead libbys) i love my country, and i love countryman...now if thats not good enough for you..well deal with it.. and yes this whole race mess should be in the past, but no people like you are not happy unless your putting other whites on thier knees and having them beg for forgiveness for something they have nothing to do with in the first place.

hey my friend T-bone(careful now he's black) told me to pass a message to you for him...."hey fool where my 40 acres and 2 mules"...now get over yourself...
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:26 AM   #82 (permalink)
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see that why liberals suck,it's not enough that i say all races are the same,it not eoungh that i don't put blacks down, no matter what i say, i will still be an racist in the eyes of braindead liberal.. have you ever heard of this"""YOU HAVE TO LOVE YOURSELF BEFORE YOU CAN LOVE ANYONE ELSE"..I love my race(if even we have braindead libbys) i love my country, and i love countryman...now if thats not good enough for you..well deal with it.. and yes this whole race mess should be in the past, but no people like you are not happy unless your putting other whites on thier knees and having them beg for forgiveness for something they have nothing to do with in the first place.
First off, you're treading the line between far right and conspiracy theorist with this "whites are opressed" crap. We're the majority. We have power. It is completely wrong and in contrast to a democratic society, but that's a fact until we change it. Especially since you complain about us dying out. That's reason enough for me to think you racist, or at least paranoid.

Second, I'm pretty sure you're a racist. If not, you would be complaining about illegal immigration from every other country, aside from just Mexico, and not just jumping the border. People take planes, trains, boats, or swim, and I don't see you getting worked up. Hell, people immigrate illegally from Canada, but you don't give a damn about them. It's just those dirty Mexicans that get you riled up, that you call invaders.

Third, stop using the term "white race." There's no such thing as a "white race." There's a human race with specific genetic subgroups who, despite differences in physical appearance, are the same on a genetic level. Saying "white race" in and of itself suggests a difference among ethnicities.

hey my friend T-bone(careful now he's black) told me to pass a message to you for him...."hey fool where my 40 acres and 2 mules"...now get over yourself...
Did he say really say that? Because if he did then be sure to tell him I never promised 40 acres and a mule, and neither did my ancestors, because most of them never even lived in America at that time.
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:36 AM   #83 (permalink)
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see that why liberals suck,it's not enough that i say all races are the same,it not eoungh that i don't put blacks down, no matter what i say, i will still be an racist in the eyes of braindead liberal.. have you ever heard of this"""YOU HAVE TO LOVE YOURSELF BEFORE YOU CAN LOVE ANYONE ELSE"..I love my race(if even we have braindead libbys) i love my country, and i love countryman...now if thats not good enough for you..well deal with it.. and yes this whole race mess should be in the past, but no people like you are not happy unless your putting other whites on thier knees and having them beg for forgiveness for something they have nothing to do with in the first place.
First off, you're treading the line between far right and conspiracy theorist with this "whites are opressed" crap. We're the majority. We have power. It is completely wrong and in contrast to a democratic society, but that's a fact until we change it. Especially since you complain about us dying out. That's reason enough for me to think you racist, or at least paranoid.

Second, I'm pretty sure you're a racist. If not, you would be complaining about illegal immigration from every other country, aside from just Mexico, and not just jumping the border. People take planes, trains, boats, or swim, and I don't see you getting worked up. Hell, people immigrate illegally from Canada, but you don't give a damn about them. It's just those dirty Mexicans that get you riled up, that you call invaders.

Third, stop using the term "white race." There's no such thing as a "white race." There's a human race with specific genetic subgroups who, despite differences in physical appearance, are the same on a genetic level. Saying "white race" in and of itself suggests a difference among ethnicities.

hey my friend T-bone(careful now he's black) told me to pass a message to you for him...."hey fool where my 40 acres and 2 mules"...now get over yourself...
Did he say really say that? Because if he did then be sure to tell him I never promised 40 acres and a mule, and neither did my ancestors, because most of them never even lived in America at that time.
Did you notice that I wasn't talking to you at the time? Show me the Post when I stated that all illegals were from mexico.....I have said most are from mexico, which is true. but since you like to twist words, i would like to see when i say all illegals are from mexico....take your time..
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:45 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Did you notice that I wasn't talking to you at the time? Show me the Post when I stated that all illegals were from mexico.....I have said most are from mexico, which is true. but since you like to twist words, i would like to see when i say all illegals are from mexico....take your time..
As a matter of fact I did notice, but I felt compelled to respond. Do you think we should shoot Canadians at the border, or sink boats coming from China? After all, as you put it, they're illegal and they're "invaders."

The point I'm trying to make is that these illegals are breaking the law, but show a little bit of sympathy. They're country is in a bad state and they have little choice. For you to call them "invaders" is like me calling a food critic a "glutton." It's what they have to do, so let them do it, but restrict it.
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As a matter of fact I did notice, but I felt compelled to respond. Do you think we should shoot Canadians at the border, or sink boats coming from China? After all, as you put it, they're illegal and they're "invaders."

The point I'm trying to make is that these illegals are breaking the law, but show a little bit of sympathy. They're country is in a bad state and they have little choice. For you to call them "invaders" is like me calling a food critic a "glutton." It's what they have to do, so let them do it, but restrict it.
I feel sympathy for their situation and I understand why they would choose to flee here, but America is for Americans. Anyone who is caught in this country illegally should be removed, PERIOD.
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As a matter of fact I did notice, but I felt compelled to respond. Do you think we should shoot Canadians at the border, or sink boats coming from China? After all, as you put it, they're illegal and they're "invaders."

The point I'm trying to make is that these illegals are breaking the law, but show a little bit of sympathy. They're country is in a bad state and they have little choice. For you to call them "invaders" is like me calling a food critic a "glutton." It's what they have to do, so let them do it, but restrict it.

Illegal by definition means banned or not allowed( for the most part), so Illegal immigrants should also be banned and not allowed. Do I mean shoot them out of the water or shoot them at the border?...No what i mean is turn them back, don't let them enter. They degrade neighborhoods not because of thier race or origin but because they are poor and therefor slums or poor districts are more prevalent in the U.S. than ever because they get paid cheap wages and take jobs from American citizens who would do the job formore money. They are hurting our economy and land value and should not be allowed in with out permission.
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I will agree that we must stem the flow of illegal aliens.

However, we have 12 MILLION illegal aliens living here now - maybe more.

Who is going to PAY for TRANSPORTING them elsewhere? AFTER paying to find/catch/try them? Who is going to pay for the unparalleled amount of paperwork and beaurocracy that will be required for all this? We're talking BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of dollars. Meanwhile, BEFORE they are caught, they are still using our education and health systems and working at jobs.

These people will NEVER be sent back. There are 12 MILLION of them. We must somehow find a way to make them accountable. It may not be fair - but it's the price we pay for DECADES AND DECADES of cavalier border patrol.
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Old 02-15-2007, 02:08 PM   #88 (permalink)
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I will agree that we must stem the flow of illegal aliens.

However, we have 12 MILLION illegal aliens living here now - maybe more.

Who is going to PAY for TRANSPORTING them elsewhere? AFTER paying to find/catch/try them? Who is going to pay for the unparalleled amount of paperwork and beaurocracy that will be required for all this? We're talking BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of dollars. Meanwhile, BEFORE they are caught, they are still using our education and health systems and working at jobs.

These people will NEVER be sent back. There are 12 MILLION of them. We must somehow find a way to make them accountable. It may not be fair - but it's the price we pay for DECADES AND DECADES of cavalier border patrol.
Tristan is actually right about this issue. He agrees with George Bush and I that the problem is far too big to be reversed

We have to deal with the stark reality, which means some kind of German-style Gastarbeiten program which will help the US economy and feed hungry Mexicans and others
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I will agree that we must stem the flow of illegal aliens.

However, we have 12 MILLION illegal aliens living here now - maybe more.

Who is going to PAY for TRANSPORTING them elsewhere? AFTER paying to find/catch/try them? Who is going to pay for the unparalleled amount of paperwork and beaurocracy that will be required for all this? We're talking BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of dollars. Meanwhile, BEFORE they are caught, they are still using our education and health systems and working at jobs.

These people will NEVER be sent back. There are 12 MILLION of them. We must somehow find a way to make them accountable. It may not be fair - but it's the price we pay for DECADES AND DECADES of cavalier border patrol.
B/S, there is a way to rid this country of the 12 million and up illegals. and there ways to stop them at the border. and i am not talking about shooting them..(even if it would be faster). but NO y'all couldn't go to the BINGO game with your heads held high if we did my plan..
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Illegal by definition means banned or not allowed( for the most part), so Illegal immigrants should also be banned and not allowed. Do I mean shoot them out of the water or shoot them at the border?...No what i mean is turn them back, don't let them enter. They degrade neighborhoods not because of thier race or origin but because they are poor and therefor slums or poor districts are more prevalent in the U.S. than ever because they get paid cheap wages and take jobs from American citizens who would do the job formore money. They are hurting our economy and land value and should not be allowed in with out permission.
Actually their cheap labor stimulates the economy; at least for the upper class. This is the dirty little secret of capitalism, and of our corporate empire; our economy runs on the exploitation of others. I don't think it necessarily has to be that way.

I agree with some of your basic assertions, though. However, banning all illegal immigrants from this country could create more of a burden on our economy than having them stay.
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