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Old 03-20-2007, 01:53 PM   #71 (permalink)
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They are already here in this country, aren't they?
Well, there has been talk about them wanting to be school bus drivers.
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:58 PM   #72 (permalink)
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LOL

That's exactly what we need now, isn't it?


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Yeah, that's been documented as such. It was reported last week.
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I am appalled. Sad, disgusted, ashamed. I love my Country very much. But, what have we done to ourselves?
We went from being a free Country, to a Judeo-Christian one. While I was raised as a Quaker and tend to believe right along the lines, mostly, that is so wrong!! I am not saying it is wrong to be Christian.....well, here is the thing. Politics based on Religion......ANY Religion....well, it worked out SO well for the Muslims. That is why it is mentioned as something not to do in our FIRST AMENDMENT......
Torture is fine, as long as our " wonderful and intelligent" President says it is ok. Hmmm another little trait we have picked up.
You can put a "spin" on things, but hard to spin this.......this is a fact. Bush wants to send more of our people to die in Iraq, with all of the money that entails. He CUT help for the Elderly, Physically and Mentally Disabled, etc.......the least of us....on a crusade to bring home Bin Laden's head. Now, not taking care of our own, but giving more money to kill.....who does that sound like? The United States of America?
We, as a Nation, have given a Monkey an Ouzi. It is up to us to take it away. How many rights will be sacrificed to the "War on Terror"? OUR OWN PRESIDENT IS TAKING AWAY OUR RIGHTS WHILE OUR TROOPS FIGHT AND DIE TO PROTECT THOSE SAME RIGHTS.... Can someone explain this OXYMORON to me???
If we start acting like THEM, meaning Terrorists, then it doesn't really matter who "wins" in Iraq. Because, we are lost. (Entry and Opinion by JudeB-2/24/07...with Much Thanks and Respect to those who Fought and Died for my Right to do so.)

Even if you dislike this country's decisions you should still support them. First of all support the troops and don't bitch about the war taking so long when your not the ones over there in the hot desert fighting suicidal islamic fundimintalists!

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Even if you dislike this country's decisions you should still support them. First of all support the troops and don't bitch about the war taking so long when your not the ones over there in the hot desert fighting suicidal islamic fundimintalists!
Well there's a regressive statement if i ever saw one. Are you counselling that one shut up and toe the line even if you are being led towards a precipice like another lemming?

BTw the TROOPS never asked to be sent there in the first place. And any complaints that it is taking too long is based on the fact that the rich policy makers (who never risk a hair on their own head) have shoved your people intoa war against all common sense.

So yeah i think it is a perfectly fair and proper thing to do if you object to the war. Those who object want americans out of harms way and want accountability from those who sent them off on a stupid mission with a stupid rationale and a stupid game plan.
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No it wont be over any time soon. BTW no matter what Bush did, we still would be at war with terror. Im more affriad what will happen once the Dems take total control, and think they can apease terrorist.
Well i think its about time that we get past the Wild West mentality of "kill or be killed". I can't understand why the US in completely incpable of seeing a middle road. One that causes FEWER DEATHS. I have a suspicion it is because the US is so convinced of its infallibility and righteousness, that it cannot imagine giving an iota on ANY count ( i mean how can you alter something which is "perfect")

As long as you remain under the misconception that you are fighting against a united, organized nation of terrorists, any and all actions will bear no fruit. As has been conclusively proven. YOu americans are LESS safe today than you were prior to the "war on terror".

Terrorists are a product of social pressures. Becoming a terrorist is not a career choice, nor is it a direction chosen "just because".

There is a HUGE number of reasons that might cause a person to mistakinly believe that terrorism is a GOOD choice. In order to combat terrorism you must address the causes that LEAD people to become terrorists. This can be anything from lack of representation, exploitation, religious dogma, poverty, corruption civil unrest etc etc.

Until THESE items are dealt with the number of terrorists will steadily increase. You can kill as many as you want, but for every "terrorist" US troops kill, there are no less than 10 ready to take his place.

I hav ehope that a future US admin will realize this (at least in part) and stop trying to cure a disease by destroying the symptoms. TERRORISM isn't the enemy. The REAL enemy are those conditions that have arisen (under US world leadership - that's why you guys are gettin so much flack btw) which can make a man desperate enough to blow himself up.

Deal with the societal factors that cause terrorism and you may have a solution. The War on Terror should take the shape of developmental programs and not the primitive "keep shooting till you hit the right target".
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Well there's a regressive statement if i ever saw one. Are you counselling that one shut up and toe the line even if you are being led towards a precipice like another lemming?

BTw the TROOPS never asked to be sent there in the first place. And any complaints that it is taking too long is based on the fact that the rich policy makers (who never risk a hair on their own head) have shoved your people intoa war against all common sense.

So yeah i think it is a perfectly fair and proper thing to do if you object to the war. Those who object want americans out of harms way and want accountability from those who sent them off on a stupid mission with a stupid rationale and a stupid game plan.


The troops never asked to be sent there? They're in the freakin military and this country isn't always at peace. What do you think is going to happen when u join the military?....Just fun and games all day long?...No..You go to war with agressors and protect this country.
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The troops never asked to be sent there? They're in the freakin military and this country isn't always at peace. What do you think is going to happen when u join the military?....Just fun and games all day long?...No..You go to war with agressors and protect this country.

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