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Old 09-19-2005, 02:21 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Anyone with a brain knows Saddam was never a threat.
Do you have anything to back that up? A lot of people better and wiser than me (but maybe not you ) thought that he was a threat.
A threat to our econonic interests maybe. It is common knowledge that Iraq does not possess long range weapons capable of reaching North America.
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Old 09-20-2005, 07:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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A threat to national interests. Our interests include our allies. What part of that do you not understand. Am I talking over your head???? Saddam was a threat to not only his neighbors, some of which were our allies, but to his own people as well.

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Old 09-20-2005, 07:51 PM   #23 (permalink)
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A threat to national interests. Our interests include our allies. What part of that do you not understand. Am I talking over your head???? Saddam was a threat to not only his neighbors, some of which were our allies, but to his own people as well.

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So why do we care about those allies so much more than say our allies in Africa, or South or Central America?


Hmmmm... It's a mystery...
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Old 09-20-2005, 08:03 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Let's not forget the American embassies that were bombed over in the middle east.
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A threat to national interests. Our interests include our allies. What part of that do you not understand. Am I talking over your head???? Saddam was a threat to not only his neighbors, some of which were our allies, but to his own people as well.

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That still does not address the lies about a connection to 9/11 and WMD's. You are fixing the facts after the fact just like a good lapdog.
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A threat to national interests. Our interests include our allies. What part of that do you not understand. Am I talking over your head???? Saddam was a threat to not only his neighbors, some of which were our allies, but to his own people as well.

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That still does not address the lies about a connection to 9/11 and WMD's. You are fixing the facts after the fact just like a good lapdog.
That's how I see it. Too many holes in this 'we need to be in iraq' story...
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
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A threat to national interests. Our interests include our allies. What part of that do you not understand. Am I talking over your head???? Saddam was a threat to not only his neighbors, some of which were our allies, but to his own people as well.

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That still does not address the lies about a connection to 9/11 and WMD's. You are fixing the facts after the fact just like a good lapdog.
Saddam was connected to 9/11 in the same way that Hitler was connected to Pearl Harbor. The idea that Osama bin Laden and Al-qaida (which means the "the base") are the only Islamic militant threats to the West is naive. Saddam gave gifts to the families of palestinian suicide bombers, who knows who else he gave money to.
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A threat to national interests. Our interests include our allies. What part of that do you not understand. Am I talking over your head???? Saddam was a threat to not only his neighbors, some of which were our allies, but to his own people as well.

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That still does not address the lies about a connection to 9/11 and WMD's. You are fixing the facts after the fact just like a good lapdog.
Saddam was connected to 9/11 in the same way that Hitler was connected to Pearl Harbor. The idea that Osama bin Laden and Al-qaida (which means the "the base") are the only Islamic militant threats to the West is naive. Saddam gave gifts to the families of palestinian suicide bombers, who knows who else he gave money to.
That's idiotic. Al-Qaeda is a religious extremist group. Saddams regime was a secular one. Osama disliked Saddam's regime more than any other in the region. Because Saddam wasn't a practicing Muslim. There was no connection at all other than in the heads of the propaganda writers and the idiots dumb enough to buy it.
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:09 PM   #29 (permalink)
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A threat to national interests. Our interests include our allies. What part of that do you not understand. Am I talking over your head???? Saddam was a threat to not only his neighbors, some of which were our allies, but to his own people as well.

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That still does not address the lies about a connection to 9/11 and WMD's. You are fixing the facts after the fact just like a good lapdog.
Saddam was connected to 9/11 in the same way that Hitler was connected to Pearl Harbor. The idea that Osama bin Laden and Al-qaida (which means the "the base") are the only Islamic militant threats to the West is naive. Saddam gave gifts to the families of palestinian suicide bombers, who knows who else he gave money to.
That's idiotic. Al-Qaeda is a religious extremist group. Saddams regime was a secular one. Osama disliked Saddam's regime more than any other in the region. Because Saddam wasn't a practicing Muslim. There was no connection at all other than in the heads of the propaganda writers and the idiots dumb enough to buy it.
Saddam's government was secular, but he funded religious organizations which supported his causes. It's not true that OBL disliked Iraq more than any other ME regime. He hates the Saudi royal family most of all because they allowed us in during the Gulf War. He had offered his mujahideen to fight, but the royal family rejected him, and later revoked his citizenship.
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A threat to national interests. Our interests include our allies. What part of that do you not understand. Am I talking over your head???? Saddam was a threat to not only his neighbors, some of which were our allies, but to his own people as well.

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That still does not address the lies about a connection to 9/11 and WMD's. You are fixing the facts after the fact just like a good lapdog.
Saddam was connected to 9/11 in the same way that Hitler was connected to Pearl Harbor. The idea that Osama bin Laden and Al-qaida (which means the "the base") are the only Islamic militant threats to the West is naive. Saddam gave gifts to the families of palestinian suicide bombers, who knows who else he gave money to.
That's idiotic. Al-Qaeda is a religious extremist group. Saddams regime was a secular one. Osama disliked Saddam's regime more than any other in the region. Because Saddam wasn't a practicing Muslim. There was no connection at all other than in the heads of the propaganda writers and the idiots dumb enough to buy it.
Saddam's government was secular, but he funded religious organizations which supported his causes. It's not true that OBL disliked Iraq more than any other ME regime. He hates the Saudi royal family most of all because they allowed us in during the Gulf War. He had offered his mujahideen to fight, but the royal family rejected him, and later revoked his citizenship.

Saddam did not support Al-Qaeda, Osama, or anything that resulted in two planes flying into skyscrapers.
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