hkbajwa

Ok i am am NOT a conspiracy theorist. However the lunatic rants of the extremists DO fit the purposes of conservative government like the outgoing republican one VERY WELL. If instead of the constant exposure given to extremists, the media had focused on those muslims who wanted reconcilliation and peaceful coexistence, do you think there would have been an Iraq war? Do you think your people would have accepted the Patriot Act? Do you think that your peole would have condoned the detainment of people WITHOUT trial in Gitmo? DO you honestly think any self-respecting american would have accepted the trials of those prisoners under the absolute ridiculous terms laid out by the government? DO you think your people would have accepted the unbelievable injustice of a suspect not being able to face his accuser? WOuld you have allowed that they be tried without access to any of the evidence? Would you ahve allowed that they were condemned with information extracted through torture? I certainly don't think so.

It is ONLY because the government has succeeded to demonize a segment of the world population and indentify them as the "enemy" ( int he absence of a communist threat) that Bush has been able to rape your own constitution.

The US has been dominated by FEAR politics like never before . Be AFRAID of the terrorists, be AFRAID of the communists, be AFRAID of etc etc. REACT to the FEAR with anger and violence.

I mean the IRaq war was justified solely on the fear imposed on the american population was it not?

The simple fact is that people like me aren't news worthy. If we are not scary, we have no use.

However THANKFULLY it seems that common sense prevails and the value of opinions like mine is increasing.

Apart from that though you are right. In many muslim nations, the peaceful majority is being bullied by the violent minority. Yet again thankfully in nations like Pakistan, the fundo clerics are steadily losing relevance. In the past 4 years i can not even BEGIN to tell you the GIANT LEAPS the population has taken in marginalizing these nutjobs. It may take a few years yet before the peaceful majority finds its voice. But it can certainly be helped along if only foreign governments would stop giving credence to the inflammatory clerics.

FOr Instance, in recent polls, the younger generation of Iranis are showing signs of breaking away from the revolutionary generation's confrontational politics. But as long as ALL iranis are considered nutjobs of Ahmedinejad's ilk, well.. It only makes it harder for them to make themselves heard.

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hkbajwa

Btw thanks a lot for ur appreciation guys Really does make me feel very good

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baloney_detector

It's a shame that we, as humans in general, tend to react with our emotions instead of our heads, so to speak.

I distinctly remember watching on the news Iranian youth in Tehran holding candlelight vigils the days after 9/11.

But, if you ask most Americans, I'll bet you they will say that never happened and, instead, they will say they all got together and cheered...even though that event in Iran was covered in the press.

Heck, even the Mayor of Tehran the wrote a letter of condolence to NYC in general and it was published in the New York Times the day after 9/11.

(The press does need to cover these events of humanity a lot better than they currently do.)

billybobama

The Fascist Republican Party always controls through fear and ignorance. If you study real U.S. history you will see they always have.

tyreay

Sorry, but the Dems are not much better.
I have been interested in the Progessive Democrats of America(for the reform of the Democratic Party), who will are planning to vote among it's members, to support a candidate.

Progressive Democrats of America

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billybobama

Good for you, but try and learn something and use more than just rhetoric.

tyreay

What is your definition of this word and how are my statements rhetoric?


Main Entry: rhet·o·ric
Pronunciation: 're-t&-rik
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English rethorik, from Anglo-French rethorique, from Latin rhetorica, from Greek rhEtorikE, literally, art of oratory, from feminine of rhEtorikos of an orator, from rhEtOr orator, rhetorician, from eirein to say, speak -- more at WORD
1 : the art of speaking or writing effectively: as a : the study of principles and rules of composition formulated by critics of ancient times b : the study of writing or speaking as a means of communication or persuasion
2 a : skill in the effective use of speech b : a type or mode of language or speech; also : insincere or grandiloquent language
3 : verbal communication : DISCOURSE
Definition of rhetoric - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Isn't it only rhetoric(I am assuming your definiton of rhetoric) because it directly opposes your political alignment? Try and learn to be a little more tolerant of other's views. This is a 'political debating' site. Not a 'forcing party affiliation on others' site.
I have learned more than you think.

Also, if you were refering to the P.D.A. link, I have learned people want proof and, or, more info.
A piece of friendly advice: loosen up a little, Dude.

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tyreay

Wouldn't this apply in your definition of rhetoric?

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billybobama

Let me teach you something. Talk is cheap. Just listen to somebody like Condaleza Rice. It is not what you say, it is what you do.