Defending the Truth

Blah Blah Blah. If that is the case you seem to be right at home. Your refusal to address my questions here, and in the other posts, makes for even cheaper talk. Typical Party-boy contridiction.

You mean you actually asked a topical question? Talk about shock and awe.

You just go ahead and continue to prove my point. You are still avoiding the issue. Did you not notice the question marks?
You started the rhetoric thing.
Either you'll debate or you won't.
If you won't what does this make your words? r-h-e-t-o-r-i-c.

I have yet to see 1 question from your posts. But let's talk about the real world. We live with a 2 party system, at this time, you choose one or the other or you 1) Waste your vote. 2) Get someone elected who should not be. Your fantasy land does not exist at this time. No matter how much rhetoric you throw at it.

In my post I asked:
What is your definition of this word and how are my statements rhetoric?
Isn't it only rhetoric(I am assuming your definiton of rhetoric) because it directly opposes your political alignment?

Yet to see, or conviniently avoided?


I was pointing out that the Progessive Democrats going to be supplying a third alterative to the traditional 2 party picks. Had you listened you would know this.

Here is the post you claimed was rhetoric.
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And I supplied a link. This is what you are suppose to do. It is not rhetoric. I upset you because I said: I don't think any party whos decisions are governed by lobbyists is as honest as you would like us to believe. Just get over it and move on.

You just do not get it. There is no competetive third political party at this time. This is only a fantasy in your brain. I just prefer to live in reality. I have no problem with having fifty political parties that are relevant but this is fiction. I feel it is unpatriotic to trust any government. If you want to pigeon hole me call me Anti-Fascist. Fascism is a very real and serious political ideal. Fascism has always had a very comfortable home in the Republican Party.

Well, we are on the same track then. Lets not argue about this, I am truely interested and would like to have an intelligent conversation.
I would like to explain my view on facism in America.
I don't believe it comes down to political parties, it comes down to income. Our governments congressional voting system is set up to provide for the whims of powerful C.E.O.s and the big industries. Each vote cast is not reflective of the politician's constituents. It is reflective of the perks and political donations offered by the lobbists. Both parties are guilty of this. I think a complete overhaul is need to fix this situation. The problem with fixing it is the fixers are the problem. Its like children in charge of the chocolates. If you put the people with millions incharge, they are going to do what is best for for big money. In the lime-light the well known inconsistances and conflicts of interests are:
Cheney-Halliburton and Bush-big oil. But there are hundreds of other smaller ones, thanks to our lobbists.
It is not a bad thing to say you don't trust the government. Nor would I say it is a bad thig to be anti-fascist.
I always push for an alternative. To me the PDA is it.
I spoke at a rally for the de-escalation of troops as guest speaker for the RI PDA. I was invited because I am a ordained minister of Humanism and they saw my site at Care2. I spoke, and my speech is posted here some place. The reason I tell you this is because I know for fact that the PDA is very serious about becoming a political party. They will have a candidate but they won't have an actual party registered in 2008. They are really picking up steam and backing and maybe a seperate party by 2012. This is my hope for the near future.
I also think instant run-off voting is a good adjustment to our voting flaws.
Instant Runoff Voting
I am a member of the PDA and these people are concerned with the future of politics. If they can get a foot hold then run off voting is another possiblity.
I would have to argue that this is not fantasy.

I can respect your idealism. I saw an interesting speaker on C-span, I plan to get his book. American Fascists by Chris Hedges.

My wife(teethandclaws) got the same book from the college library. I've read some, but not all of it, and it is a very interesting read. Kind of scary really. It is more about extreme right wing Christianity.
Please see: http://www.defendingthetruth.com/boo...html#post76938 (American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War On America)

The foundation of all Fascism is some sort of religion. Let me give you an example - Hitler believed that if God did not want him to kill 6 million Jews then God would stop him.