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Old 04-27-2007, 10:15 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It has been exposed that Saddam sent his WMD's to Syria in planes that supposedly held aid for victims of some disaster (I think it was an earthquake)
proof please?
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Could you provide a link please.
Here is the link that you requested. BTW I was mistaken, it was not an earthquake but a flood after a dam collapse in 2002.
WorldNetDaily: Saddam general: WMDs in Syria
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:46 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Here is the link that you requested. BTW I was mistaken, it was not an earthquake but a flood after a dam collapse in 2002.
WorldNetDaily: Saddam general: WMDs in Syria
Saddam's WMD's are in my garage. Osama Bin Laden is in my den watching television and haveing milk and cookies.
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:48 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Saddam's WMD's are in my garage. Osama Bin Laden is in my den watching television and haveing milk and cookies.

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Losing in Iraq cannot be an option. The only one who can defeat us is ourselves. If we leave Iraq before the job is done, then the slaughter will make Darfur seem like a "SUNDAY SCHOOL PICNIC". I hope and pray that Congress will provide the money that President Bush needs to fight the war without deadlines or "PORK".
What"job" is it we're doing there, gmeyers1944? Gathering up and stopping the production of WMDs? Nope...They never had any. Stopping the terrorist cell group AlQaeda from taking over? Nope. They weren't there before we invaded and all they are doing now is helping the Saudi Arabia Sunnis get control of Iraq again. Getting rid of Saddam? Hung him! Stealing their oil production for ourselves. Uh-huh. So, pray tell, why should Americans who can't find work that supports them and their families and provide healthcare to them all once they come home from fighting in an occupation, let alone get needed treatment for their injuries and just compensation, fight so that the wealthy 1% can have more?
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Losing in Iraq cannot be an option. The only one who can defeat us is ourselves. If we leave Iraq before the job is done, then the slaughter will make Darfur seem like a "SUNDAY SCHOOL PICNIC". I hope and pray that Congress will provide the money that President Bush needs to fight the war without deadlines or "PORK".
What slaughter are you talking about? The insurgents are primarily composed of IRAQIS that see us as occupiers. The small number of foreign fighters, including al qaeda, will be driven out once we leave. Iraq will not become a terrorist haven and the slaughter that is happening NOW will diminish.

We already won in iraq. The "goal" was to rid iraq of saddam and his wmd's. Saddam is pushing up daisies and there are/were no wmd's.

Like bush said in May 2003 during his cowboy publicity stunt - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Our blood and treasure is being wasted for one reason - to give bush the appearance of being a "war" president and to create his "legacy".

His legacy will be to be remembered as the worst president ever.

We need to pull our soldiers out of iraq. We need to send some of them to afghanistan/pakistan and get the actual bastards that attacked us and supported that attack.
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Here is the link that you requested. BTW I was mistaken, it was not an earthquake but a flood after a dam collapse in 2002.
WorldNetDaily: Saddam general: WMDs in Syria
Anecdotal evidence is insufficient. WHERE in syria are the weapons? Let's see them. Let's ee actual evidence.

IF this was true, bush and company would be all over the media saying "I told you so" and pounding the war drums against syria.
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Old 06-08-2007, 07:55 AM   #28 (permalink)
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We will just have to agree to disagree concerning inevitability. President Bush did not pick Iraq, Iraq picked us and we responded in the only way that makes any sense. Oil is not a reason for war.

As usual, the U N is showing how helpless they really are. We are addressing a far worse problem than Darfur IN IRAQ
EXCUSE ME?

What do you mean iraq picked us?

Was it iraq that attacked us on 9/11, yes or no?
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Here is the link that you requested. BTW I was mistaken, it was not an earthquake but a flood after a dam collapse in 2002.
WorldNetDaily: Saddam general: WMDs in Syria
I've been saying this for a while. WMDs are a defensive measure. We have them in order to intimidate people into mot attacking with theirs. Any sane world leader would never attempt an attack because they know that we would turn their country into a giant ashtray. That's why Israel never used theirs. That's why Iran hasn't used the ones you think they're building. That's why we've never had a nuclear, chemical, or biological attack on U.S. soil. Who cares if he had WMDs? So does everyone else.

There was absolutely no motivation for him to do anything, especially considering him and Al Qaeda were not on good terms. Anything said otherwise is a lie, because they just plain hated each other. Saddam was a despot, and he would NEVER put weapons into the hands of rogue factions in his country. That's just plain stupid for any despot to do.
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I don't know who called the war "random", but it was not me. Saddam Hussein was in total violation of numerous UN resolutions. He killed countless people in his own country and was a serious threat to his neighbors.
All of which, until the '80s, was funded by the U.S.A. And don't act like they're the only ones violating international law and human rights. You're holding them to quite the double standard.

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When the UN chose to ignore his tantrums, all accepted intelligence ( accepted by Republicans and Democrats, President Clinton included, in America and many intelligece agencies in many other countries ) indicated that he was a threat with WMDs.
With WMDs, maybe. I don't know. But a threat, absolutely not.

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I believe the WMD's are now in Syria. We could not let things slide like that which happened prior to WWII. BTW America is not a country that occupies another countries. If we were then Great Britain, France, Germany, Japan, and others would still be subordinate to American rule.
THEY STILL ARE!!!! That's how imperialism works. You don't rule countries, but they're still kissing your feet.
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