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| Tenet Talks Tenet admits that intellegence for the Iraq War was fabricated. "At the Center of the Storm: My Years at the CIA" by George Tenet. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.---Arthur Schopenhauer Here's just a few of the lies and deception fed to U.S. citizens. You want more? 1. Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.---Dick Cheney Speech to VFW National Convention August 26, 2002 2. Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.---George W. Bush Speech to UN General Assembly September 12, 2002 3. If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.---Ari Fleischer Press Briefing December 2, 2002 4. We know for a fact that there are weapons there.---Ari Fleischer Press Briefing January 9, 2003 5. Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.---George W. Bush State of the Union Address January 28, 2003 6. We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.---Colin Powell Remarks to UN Security Council February 5, 2003 7. We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have.--- George W. Bush Radio Address February 8, 2003 8. If Iraq had disarmed itself, gotten rid of its weapons of mass destruction over the past 12 years, or over the last several months since (UN Resolution) 1441 was enacted, we would not be facing the crisis that we now have before us . . . But the suggestion that we are doing this because we want to go to every country in the Middle East and rearrange all of its pieces is not correct.---Colin Powell Interview with Radio France International February 28, 2003 9. So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? . . . I think our judgment has to be clearly not.---Colin Powell Remarks to UN Security Council March 7, 2003 10. Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.---George W. Bush Address to the Nation March 17, 2003 11. Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes.---Ari Fleisher Press Briefing March 21, 2003 12. There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. And . . . as this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them.---Gen. Tommy Franks Press Conference March 22, 2003 13. I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction.---Defense Policy Board member Kenneth Adelman Washington Post, p. A27 March 23, 2003 14. One of our top objectives is to find and destroy the WMD. There are a number of sites.Pentagon Spokeswoman ---Victoria Clark Press Briefing March 22, 2003 15. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat. ---Donald Rumsfeld ABC Interview March 30, 2003 16. Obviously the administration intends to publicize all the weapons of mass destruction U.S. forces find -- and there will be plenty.---Neocon scholar Robert Kagan Washington Post op-ed April 9, 2003 17. We are learning more as we interrogate or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find them.---George W. Bush NBC Interview April 24, 2003 18. There are people who in large measure have information that we need . . . so that we can track down the weapons of mass destruction in that country.---Donald Rumsfeld Press Briefing April 25, 2003 19. We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so.---George W. Bush Remarks to Reporters May 3, 2003 20. For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.---Paul Wolfowitz Vanity Fair interview May 28, 2003 Live the Light, Give the Light, Bring Heaven to Earth Every Day! http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBcwAJZGX...=john%20denver The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of their friends and advisers, what are we to conclude about the Republican party: Stop the madness before us it stops! Σταματήστε την τρέλα προτού να μας σταματήσεϊ Greek | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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I was asking about George Tenet specifically, so here is my question again: Can anyone come up with a quote from Tenet's book where George Tenet actually uses the words/phrase - "The intelligence for the Iraq War was fabricated?" Or, words to that effect? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| I am enjoying this - it's fun. . . See, folks, I asked a simple and valid question (and I'm not getting an answer). No, I haven't read the book, but I'm willing to bet that Tenet never actually used the words, "The Intelligence for the Iraq War was fabricated." I am even willing to put my membership in this web site on the table here. . . So, here's the bet: If anyone can come up with a quote from George Tenet's recent book, where he actually used the words/phrase - "The Intelligence for the Iraq War was fabricated (or even words to that effect)," then I will leave this web site and never come back. On the other hand, if you can't come up with an actual quote along that line, then you must leave this web site and never come back. Any takers? And please, just answer the question. . . no personal attacks or verbal diarreah like I've been receiving in this thread thus far. . . | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Anyone here in the position to recieve an advance copy? In any case, it is a bit early to have any real discussion on the book until people get a chance to read it. And why on Earth would you want to stake your or anyone's membership on this question? What use is a debate site if there aren't people on both sides of an issue debating? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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