Later hours for school?? - Page 2

aMFliberal · 01-08-2006, 01:28 AM

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I hate to say it Jon, I know you are not gonna like the sound of this... but I think you need to just suck it up. When you get to the real world you will have to start early. I think it is better for teenagers to learn to grow up young. The real world will have no sympathy, and neither do I. I am sorry. Plus part of the reason to get up early is to get you out of the house when your parents lleave as well. Sorry dude. I am against it. I am all for making school hours later, like till 1600 or 1630.

Yeah and in the real world kids don't get to school on time when it starts as early as 7:30. Anything before 8:00 AM is ridiculous and even 8:00 AM is hard on people, parents included. You have no sympathy but you also don't have to get your kids to school in the morning before you go to work. There's no reason why schools can't start at 8:30 AM and go an extra hour into the afternoon. A lot of public schools get out at ridiculous times in the afternoon to me. If you use the real world argument, tadpole, then I could say alright why not have school be 9 AM - 5 PM just like the "real" world. Public schools will never go as late as 5 PM but there's no reason they have to start before 8:30 AM.

I understand what you are saying, and I can agree with 0830, but Jon metioned 1000... and that is simply ridiculous if you ask me. I agree that starting before 0800 is equally ridiculous.

Yeah I agree...I think 9:00 should be the cut off and I doubt many schools would ever go for that late of a starting time. At least we agree that before 8AM is unreasonable.

tadpole256 · 01-08-2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by aMFliberal

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

I hate to say it Jon, I know you are not gonna like the sound of this... but I think you need to just suck it up. When you get to the real world you will have to start early. I think it is better for teenagers to learn to grow up young. The real world will have no sympathy, and neither do I. I am sorry. Plus part of the reason to get up early is to get you out of the house when your parents lleave as well. Sorry dude. I am against it. I am all for making school hours later, like till 1600 or 1630.

Yeah and in the real world kids don't get to school on time when it starts as early as 7:30. Anything before 8:00 AM is ridiculous and even 8:00 AM is hard on people, parents included. You have no sympathy but you also don't have to get your kids to school in the morning before you go to work. There's no reason why schools can't start at 8:30 AM and go an extra hour into the afternoon. A lot of public schools get out at ridiculous times in the afternoon to me. If you use the real world argument, tadpole, then I could say alright why not have school be 9 AM - 5 PM just like the "real" world. Public schools will never go as late as 5 PM but there's no reason they have to start before 8:30 AM.

I understand what you are saying, and I can agree with 0830, but Jon metioned 1000... and that is simply ridiculous if you ask me. I agree that starting before 0800 is equally ridiculous.

Yeah I agree...I think 9:00 should be the cut off and I doubt many schools would ever go for that late of a starting time. At least we agree that before 8AM is unreasonable.

Absolutely.

By the way for all who are interested... My High School is so cool, that it has a wikipedia entry!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_High_School_(Philadelphia)

Fucking eh!

256!

RidinHighSpeeds · 01-08-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aMFliberal

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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Originally Posted by aMFliberal

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

I hate to say it Jon, I know you are not gonna like the sound of this... but I think you need to just suck it up. When you get to the real world you will have to start early. I think it is better for teenagers to learn to grow up young. The real world will have no sympathy, and neither do I. I am sorry. Plus part of the reason to get up early is to get you out of the house when your parents lleave as well. Sorry dude. I am against it. I am all for making school hours later, like till 1600 or 1630.

Yeah and in the real world kids don't get to school on time when it starts as early as 7:30. Anything before 8:00 AM is ridiculous and even 8:00 AM is hard on people, parents included. You have no sympathy but you also don't have to get your kids to school in the morning before you go to work. There's no reason why schools can't start at 8:30 AM and go an extra hour into the afternoon. A lot of public schools get out at ridiculous times in the afternoon to me. If you use the real world argument, tadpole, then I could say alright why not have school be 9 AM - 5 PM just like the "real" world. Public schools will never go as late as 5 PM but there's no reason they have to start before 8:30 AM.

I understand what you are saying, and I can agree with 0830, but Jon metioned 1000... and that is simply ridiculous if you ask me. I agree that starting before 0800 is equally ridiculous.

Yeah I agree...I think 9:00 should be the cut off and I doubt many schools would ever go for that late of a starting time. At least we agree that before 8AM is unreasonable.

8 or 8:30AM sounds good to me!

Nebraskaboy · 01-09-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by aMFliberal

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

I hate to say it Jon, I know you are not gonna like the sound of this... but I think you need to just suck it up. When you get to the real world you will have to start early. I think it is better for teenagers to learn to grow up young. The real world will have no sympathy, and neither do I. I am sorry. Plus part of the reason to get up early is to get you out of the house when your parents lleave as well. Sorry dude. I am against it. I am all for making school hours later, like till 1600 or 1630.

Yeah and in the real world kids don't get to school on time when it starts as early as 7:30. Anything before 8:00 AM is ridiculous and even 8:00 AM is hard on people, parents included. You have no sympathy but you also don't have to get your kids to school in the morning before you go to work. There's no reason why schools can't start at 8:30 AM and go an extra hour into the afternoon. A lot of public schools get out at ridiculous times in the afternoon to me. If you use the real world argument, tadpole, then I could say alright why not have school be 9 AM - 5 PM just like the "real" world. Public schools will never go as late as 5 PM but there's no reason they have to start before 8:30 AM.

I understand what you are saying, and I can agree with 0830, but Jon metioned 1000... and that is simply ridiculous if you ask me. I agree that starting before 0800 is equally ridiculous.

Yeah I agree...I think 9:00 should be the cut off and I doubt many schools would ever go for that late of a starting time. At least we agree that before 8AM is unreasonable.

8 or 8:30AM sounds good to me!

I didn't start high school till 8 and got out at 3:20

hevusa · 01-09-2006, 02:51 PM

I haven't really been following this thread so pardon me if this has been covered.

All I want to say about early school hours is this: High School students don't learn enough because of the early hours.

Scientists now tell us that as much as half of a day's new learning can be lost by lack of sleep that night. Grades and test scores seem to bear that out. In general, students who struggle or fail at school get less sleep than classmates who earn As and Bs. Three years after delaying their start time by an hour, a Minnesota school's average SAT scores rose 140-160 points--about 25 percent.

Whole article here: http://www.partnershipforlearning.or...?ArticleID=284

tadpole256 · 01-09-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

I haven't really been following this thread so pardon me if this has been covered.

All I want to say about early school hours is this: High School students don't learn enough because of the early hours.

Scientists now tell us that as much as half of a day's new learning can be lost by lack of sleep that night. Grades and test scores seem to bear that out. In general, students who struggle or fail at school get less sleep than classmates who earn As and Bs. Three years after delaying their start time by an hour, a Minnesota school's average SAT scores rose 140-160 points--about 25 percent.

Whole article here: http://www.partnershipforlearning.or...?ArticleID=284

Sounds like whining to me. Let the kids go to bed earlier. It's nonsense. We make far too many excuses for mediocrity in this country. IMHO

hevusa · 01-09-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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Originally Posted by hevusa

I haven't really been following this thread so pardon me if this has been covered.

All I want to say about early school hours is this: High School students don't learn enough because of the early hours.

Scientists now tell us that as much as half of a day's new learning can be lost by lack of sleep that night. Grades and test scores seem to bear that out. In general, students who struggle or fail at school get less sleep than classmates who earn As and Bs. Three years after delaying their start time by an hour, a Minnesota school's average SAT scores rose 140-160 points--about 25 percent.

Whole article here: http://www.partnershipforlearning.or...?ArticleID=284

Sounds like whining to me. Let the kids go to bed earlier. It's nonsense. We make far too many excuses for mediocrity in this country. IMHO

If we want better High School results we need a resonable start time. When students have to get up at 5:30AM it just doesn't work.

tadpole256 · 01-09-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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Originally Posted by hevusa

I haven't really been following this thread so pardon me if this has been covered.

All I want to say about early school hours is this: High School students don't learn enough because of the early hours.

Scientists now tell us that as much as half of a day's new learning can be lost by lack of sleep that night. Grades and test scores seem to bear that out. In general, students who struggle or fail at school get less sleep than classmates who earn As and Bs. Three years after delaying their start time by an hour, a Minnesota school's average SAT scores rose 140-160 points--about 25 percent.

Whole article here: http://www.partnershipforlearning.or...?ArticleID=284

Sounds like whining to me. Let the kids go to bed earlier. It's nonsense. We make far too many excuses for mediocrity in this country. IMHO

If we want better High School results we need a resonable start time. When students have to get up at 5:30AM it just doesn't work.

I agree. But I have never met a kid who had to get up at 0530 to go to school unless they were in a military school, and those lucky bastards usually get better grades. I thought we've already agreed that school should start between 0800 and 0900.

RidinHighSpeeds · 01-09-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

I haven't really been following this thread so pardon me if this has been covered.

All I want to say about early school hours is this: High School students don't learn enough because of the early hours.

Scientists now tell us that as much as half of a day's new learning can be lost by lack of sleep that night. Grades and test scores seem to bear that out. In general, students who struggle or fail at school get less sleep than classmates who earn As and Bs. Three years after delaying their start time by an hour, a Minnesota school's average SAT scores rose 140-160 points--about 25 percent.

Whole article here: http://www.partnershipforlearning.or...?ArticleID=284

Hell yea! That article clearly supports my argument

hevusa · 01-09-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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Originally Posted by hevusa

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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Originally Posted by hevusa

I haven't really been following this thread so pardon me if this has been covered.

All I want to say about early school hours is this: High School students don't learn enough because of the early hours.

Scientists now tell us that as much as half of a day's new learning can be lost by lack of sleep that night. Grades and test scores seem to bear that out. In general, students who struggle or fail at school get less sleep than classmates who earn As and Bs. Three years after delaying their start time by an hour, a Minnesota school's average SAT scores rose 140-160 points--about 25 percent.

Whole article here: http://www.partnershipforlearning.or...?ArticleID=284

Sounds like whining to me. Let the kids go to bed earlier. It's nonsense. We make far too many excuses for mediocrity in this country. IMHO

If we want better High School results we need a resonable start time. When students have to get up at 5:30AM it just doesn't work.

I agree. But I have never met a kid who had to get up at 0530 to go to school unless they were in a military school, and those lucky bastards usually get better grades. I thought we've already agreed that school should start between 0800 and 0900.

I did. Bus came at 6:20. School started at 7AM.
I was drooling on my desk 1st period and some of second.

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